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1 posted on 08/06/2009 10:36:25 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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If WND actually comes out against it, definite fraud.


2 posted on 08/06/2009 10:37:52 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: RobinMasters

I guess now Jerome Corsi and World Net Daily join the ranks of leftys out to hide the truth.


3 posted on 08/06/2009 10:39:33 AM PDT by awake-n-angry
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What is the definition of transparent?


6 posted on 08/06/2009 10:42:29 AM PDT by taxtruth (END THE FED AND OBAMA)
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Corsi compromised by the NAU?


8 posted on 08/06/2009 10:43:04 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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The preponderance of the evidence strongly favors the idea that the “Kenyan” COLB is bogus. It also strongly favors the idea that the hoax was perpetrated for the express purpose of discrediting the right, and casting doubt on any documents that may be uncovered in the future.


9 posted on 08/06/2009 10:43:33 AM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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Drop this Kenyan BC.

Demand that he provide all his records.


11 posted on 08/06/2009 10:44:07 AM PDT by nikos1121 (praying for -13)
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"The Kenyan birth document released by California attorney Orly Taitz is probably not authentic, according to WND's investigative operatives in Africa, though officials in Nairobi do not rule out the possibility President Obama may indeed have been born in their country.

OK so this document may not have been real, but no one is saying for a fact that he was not born in Africa.

She is trying to get the right to review official records in Kenya to find the truth through the discovery process.

12 posted on 08/06/2009 10:44:11 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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A good investigation will turn up facts that differ from what the investigator may be expecting or wanting. That's a tribute to Taitz's integrity.

The task is very difficult -- to prove that Obama wasn't born in Kenya. Proving a negative is terribly hard, but it could be done in this case if Obama would provide proof that he was born in Hawaii. Since he refuses to do that, one must continue to pursue the possibility that there is proof of his birth at a location outside of Hawaii.

13 posted on 08/06/2009 10:44:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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Well, maybe. But consider this extract:

Kenyan government officials interviewed by WND sources in Kenya have pointed out a key difference in the Taitz document. In 1961, Mombasa was a part of Zanzibar, not the Coast Province of Kenya. The area was later ceded to Kenya.

Moreover, the African nation was the Dominion of Kenya until December 1964, after declaring independence in 1961. Kenya was not officially the Republic of Kenya until some 10 months after the Feb. 17, 1964, date on which the Taitz document purportedly was certified.

This is nothing but the Obama party line, being parroted by Kenya officials. As revealed by primary documents and contemporary reports here on other threads, this is simply untrue.

Zanzibar gave authority to the UK over the Coast Province in the late 19th century, and the province went to Kenya rather than Zanzibar before the date of the Kenyan COLB.

And Jomo Kenyatta declared that Kenya was a Republic on Republic Day in December 1963, not 1964.

As for the different formats, who knows? Does Corsi think he can go into Kenya and get a real 1964 COLB from someone? or will anyone he is allowed to get near be previously vetted by Odinga and his goons? I would bet on the latter.

14 posted on 08/06/2009 10:45:27 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Whether or not the certificate is real doesn’t matter. The fact is that he’s hiding his original BC and his academic records and he’s spending millions to keep them hidden.... WHY?


22 posted on 08/06/2009 10:49:50 AM PDT by jersey117
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Keep in mind that Lightfoot vs. Bowen is still preceding in U.S. District Court, Santa Ana, CA. with Judge David O. Carter. That’s an Orly Taitz case challenging Obama.


23 posted on 08/06/2009 10:50:08 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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ping


24 posted on 08/06/2009 10:50:29 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


28 posted on 08/06/2009 10:59:44 AM PDT by Dryman (Now, Back to Lurking)
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This is twisted. They need to get Copy’s of BC’s filed in early 1964 if they want to find a comparable BC. Gees.. how lame can you get.. yea.. there would be a difference between the Long Forms of 1961 and the COLB like Copy of 1964.. this is bizarre..


30 posted on 08/06/2009 11:04:31 AM PDT by dalight
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If Orly's doc is fake then someone set her up and that is the story. Who did it and why? It will backfire on them.

Orly needs help, and needs to listen that help.

31 posted on 08/06/2009 11:04:40 AM PDT by FTJM
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I’m confused by the new Kenyan docs posted on WND. Although clearly different, they do not appear to be “apples to apples” comparisons.

The original Taitz BC is actually a “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth”. The new one is a “Return of Birth”. It seems the Taitz BC is a report that a Birth was registered in 1961, while the new one is actually a contamporaneous report of a birth. Likewise, I am checking now, but it seems they are from different sections of the country and may not represent forms that were in universal use in every district.

I may be grasping at straws. If so, so be it. FR is a place where we follow the facts, wherever they lead.


32 posted on 08/06/2009 11:04:59 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: RobinMasters
Obama birth certificate
33 posted on 08/06/2009 11:05:30 AM PDT by Bon mots
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“WND obtained several samples of Kenyan birth certificates in use around Aug. 4, 1961, the date of Obama’s birth, showing differences from the Taitz document.”

The two cannot even be compared. In the WND article, images of an ACTUAL, original birth certificate were shown.

The Kenyan document that Orly Taitz submitted was not in any way an original birth certificate. It was a “Certified copy of a Birth Registration”, generated 3 years later. This would be the equivalent of a “Certification of Live Birth” from Kenya, or, a COLB.

If the Kenyan document is authentic, it would have been generated to support, for example, a divorce proceeding where paternity would need to be established.

34 posted on 08/06/2009 11:06:12 AM PDT by motoman
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The Kenyan birth document released by California attorney Orly Taitz is probably not authentic, according to WND's investigative operatives in Africa, though officials in Nairobi do not rule out the possibility President Obama may indeed have been born in their country.

This is a loaded sentence.

WND obtained several samples of Kenyan birth certificates in use around Aug. 4, 1961, the date of Obama's birth, showing differences from the Taitz document.

But I thought that the document shown was more of a birth certification than a birth certificate, and therefore it would be different. Sure would love to see that Book and Page number.

45 posted on 08/06/2009 11:15:23 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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Kinda sounds like a p*ssing match between Corsi and Taitz. And what’s this about requiring a deposition from HILLARY CLINTON??


66 posted on 08/06/2009 11:43:30 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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