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Obama birth doc update : Kenya sources weigh in
WorldNetDaily ^ | August 5, 2009 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 08/06/2009 10:36:25 AM PDT by RobinMasters

NEW YORK – The Kenyan birth document released by California attorney Orly Taitz is probably not authentic, according to WND's investigative operatives in Africa, though officials in Nairobi do not rule out the possibility President Obama may indeed have been born in their country.

WND obtained several samples of Kenyan birth certificates in use around Aug. 4, 1961, the date of Obama's birth, showing differences from the Taitz document.

She filed a motion in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California requesting the purported evidence of Obama's birth – both the alleged birth certificate and foreign records not yet obtained – be preserved from destruction. She also asked for permission to legally request documents from Kenya and is seeking a subpoena for a deposition from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

"I filed the motion with the court asking for expedited discovery, which would allow me to start subpoenas and depositions even before Obama and the government responds," Taitz told WND then. "I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy and to require a deposition from Hillary Clinton so they will be forced to authenticate [the birth certificate]."

The document she revealed:

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizenship; colb; eligibility; hawaii; honolulu; indonesia; ineligible; kenya; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obamatruthfile; orly; orlytaitz; taitz; usurper
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Why would Kenya tell the truth?


101 posted on 08/06/2009 2:24:20 PM PDT by Sophia777
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To: RobinMasters
But an authentic 1961-era Kenyan birth certificate obtained by WND shows distinct differences.

This conflicts with what WND said on Sunday: WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.

The "verified 1961-era Kenyan birth certificate" is labeled "Government of Kenya", but in 1961 and until 1963, Kenya was the "British Crown Colony of Kenya". Parent's Nationalities are both given as "Kenyan Citizen", which really isn't correct for 1961, it should have been something to indicate the status of Kenya as a Crown Colony, perhaps, "British Subject" or "UK".

According to a posting in the Washington Independent, a "source" said the document was nothing more than an alteration of a "certified copy of registration of birth" from an Australian "Bomford" document that also had been posted on the Internet.

"There are striking similarities between this document and the one Orly Taitz is passing off as a 'Kenyan birth certificate' for Barack Obama," the report said.
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"What's more likely – that two Kenyan bureaucrats shared last names with two Australian bureaucrats, and that the numbers on both certificates were identical? Or that someone used this document, available online for anyone who wanted to look, to forge the Obama 'certificate?'" the Independent report asked.

In the absence of some other South Austrailia "Birth Certificate", all one can say is that one of them is a forgery, but which one?

102 posted on 08/06/2009 3:26:51 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: rwfromkansas
The Kenyan document obtained by WND is way different in format and appearance and clearly is from a different country or time frame than the one Orly has, so it is def. a fraud.

Or it's a different document. A registry entry rather than a copy of the registration. Note that they Taitz document refers to a Birth Register, as the original "source" document. Since it does have the signature of the "informant", apparently a district official, it is likely a copy of the original, rather than an "abstract" like the Taitz document or for that matter, the "Obama" COLB.

103 posted on 08/06/2009 3:31:16 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: RobinMasters
WND obtained several samples of Kenyan birth certificates in use around Aug. 4, 1961, the date of Obama's birth, showing differences from the Taitz document.

The guys over at WND must have not been wearing their glasses when they stated in the previous article (Is this really smoking gun of Obama's Kenyan birth?...http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764 -
WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.

What's up guys???
104 posted on 08/06/2009 3:33:23 PM PDT by Wolf-Lake
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To: RobinMasters
The design is identical, down to the seal at the top and the

There is no seal at the top of either the "Kenyan" or the "South Australian" documents. They are on the bottom left, and the SA one is much larger.

105 posted on 08/06/2009 3:39:36 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: RobinMasters

obumpa


106 posted on 08/06/2009 3:45:06 PM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: Munz
how well did he do in college? what were the courses he took? what were his grades? camon he says he went to three colleges, no transcripts?

We know his mother did fairly well, at least in her first three terms at the U. of Washington, where she apparently got 3 Bs and 3 As, while tending to her less than one year old baby for a GPA there of 3.5. In High School her GPA was 3.35, which might not sound too good today, but in 1960 that was pretty good.

107 posted on 08/06/2009 4:16:55 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: sam_paine
Exactly. Wait till the right has totally gotten on the edge, and then yank the plank out from under them.

Who on the right is promoting this?

The only people I hear saying that are on the left (not you)

I don't see anyone out there on "our" side pushing this, even "our" guys in the media are poo pooing it

108 posted on 08/06/2009 4:36:32 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Americans, just reading the bills and doing the jobs their representatives won't do)
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To: GourmetDan
It won’t be long before we won’t really believe anything at all...

That, is a sad fact, and the objective.

When it come down to not knowing who you can trust, it's over (neighbors spying on neighbors)

109 posted on 08/06/2009 4:43:51 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Americans, just reading the bills and doing the jobs their representatives won't do)
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To: sam_paine
And such uncontrolled evidence wouldn't even be admissible in a parking ticket case, much less the SOLE EVIDENCE for removing a seated president.

Like a COLB, the documents merely point to official records, in many countries that is a entry in a log, not an individual document for each birth. That's why the Kenyan/Austrailian document had Book and Page numbers, so that the original record could be verified if necessary. That record would *normaly* still exist and have a decent chain of custody. But Kenya is run in part by Obama's cousin, Raile Odinga, who got his position by turning his thugs loose to burn and pillage, after he lost an election. Still a reasonable actual document might open up the records in Hawai`i via a court order. Those would have a good chain of custody, but would actually be easier to falsify, since there would be a single file for each person, most would be a single document. Persons who were adopted, or changed their name other than by marriage, might have more than a single document.

110 posted on 08/06/2009 9:00:12 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Maybe someone contacted Farah and told him he better lay off or (.....) might happen to someone.

Because none of what WND says makes sense.


111 posted on 08/06/2009 10:00:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Greenperson
...No COLB is going to look exactly like an original, long-form birth certificate! DUH!

What the heck are the editors at WND thinking?

sumptin strange here-if CORSI can't write logically on this subject, ya gotta wonder....

112 posted on 08/07/2009 4:43:21 AM PDT by 1234
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Gibbs is so not-smooth that he’s a pretty telling window into Rahm’s strategy.

Gibbs has suddenly started talking about the birthers in press cons. Why is that? Either Rahm is letting him tread in a very dangerous area for Zero, or, Rahm WANTS him to rattle that cage. I think Rahm is evil, but not stupid.

Meanwhile, the DNC is trying to convolute the grass-roots opponents with orchestrated RNC moves.

What they’re obviously trying to do is to jujitsu our energy and use it to marginalize and delegitimize all rational opposition to Zero on anything.

If you read the viral youtube threads on healthcare...here’s a perfect example:

“jonnyalpha (10 hours ago)
-5
Reply
Yeah, remember, Trihnity2k2, a lot of these
same people are probably still looking for
Obama’s birth certificate....Not a whole
lot upstairs, needless to say.”


113 posted on 08/07/2009 6:18:38 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: El Gato
But Kenya is run in part by Obama's cousin, Raile Odinga, who got his position by turning his thugs loose to burn and pillage, after he lost an election. Still a reasonable actual document might open up the records in Hawai`i via a court order. Those would have a good chain of custody, but would actually be easier to falsify, since there would be a single file for each person, most would be a single document.

Great. So we essentially agree! The absolute best hope for evidence to remove a seated US president would come down to, at best, two easily falsifiable pieces of paper. Game over.

America had a chance to avoid this mess in 2008.

We have another chance to castrate this imposter's power in 2010.

If we keep playing into Rahm's birther/hater/loony-right playbook then we'll scare off the sensible middle for 2010 and hand him the dirty Chicago victory he's happy with.

114 posted on 08/07/2009 6:23:21 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: El Gato

it appears to also be from 1964 see the number on the right side margin GPK 209-20mm 1/64

GPK appears on modern Kenya documents


115 posted on 08/07/2009 6:42:46 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: sam_paine

One major problem (or two) is that (a) so many Repubs in DC seem to be eager to capitulate and (b) the thuggery in campaign and elections will only intensify. Any Rs (what to to speak of conversatives) will have to win by landslides to overcome the dirty tricks.

And the media will only be more whorelike as well.

My hope is that more regular Americans will see the evil 0 for what he is.


116 posted on 08/07/2009 9:38:50 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: sam_paine
We have another chance to castrate this imposter's power in 2010.

I'm not as confident of that as you are. Swine Flu or the Heebie Jeebies, may cause a postponement of the fall 2010 elections. Although more likely "who counts the votes" will turn out to be decisive in that election.

117 posted on 08/07/2009 11:46:57 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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