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Senator Voinvich claims Ohioans can't relate to pro-gun Republicans from the South
Buckeye Firearms Association ^ | 07/29/2009 - 00:10. | Chad D. Baus

Posted on 08/04/2009 7:28:09 PM PDT by HiramQuick

Senator Voinvich claims Ohioans can't relate to pro-gun Republicans from the South printable page Submitted by cbaus on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 00:10. Ohio Politics National Politics Guns in the News Gun Grabbers By Chad D. Baus

One week after ignoring thousands of phone calls from his constituents and helping a Democrat filibuster kill nationwide CCW reciprocity, Republican Senator George Voinovich of Ohio told editors at the Columbus Dispatch he knows what the Republican party's biggest problem is.

According to the anti-gun Senator, who has decided to retire after recognizing a 2010 re-election bid would meet the same fate as anti-gun Mike DeWine's did in 2006, Ohioans just can't relate to pro-gun Republicans from the South.

On Monday, Voinovich told Dispatch editors "We got too many Jim DeMints (R-S.C.) and Tom Coburns (R-Okla.). It's the Southerners. They get on TV and go "errrr, errrrr." People hear them and say, 'These people, they're Southerners. The party's being taken over by Southerners. What they hell they got to do with Ohio?'"

Judging by the 2006 defeat of Mike DeWine and the fact that Voinovich is not running again, the real question that has been asked, and answered, by Ohio voters is "what the hell do these anti-gun Republicans have to do with Ohio?"

Based on his comments to the Dispatch, it seems Voinovich, yet another person that left Ohio to find a job, has been gone far too long. While he is busy in D.C., projecting his own inability to relate to his pro-gun colleagues onto his constituents, roughly 160,000 Ohioans have obtained Ohio concealed handgun licenses, and voters elected pro-gun Democrats to the state-wide positions of Governor, Attorney General and Treasurer, as well as a pro-gun Democrat-controlled majority in the Ohio House.

When reflecting on Voinovich's out-of-touch and bigoted remarks, Buckeye Firearms Association Region Leader and self-described Southern gentlemen Larry S. Moore observed that "maybe instead of bitching about the way we talk, he should be looking at the way we walk the walk."

If the party is being taken over by Southerners, as Voinovich suggests, perhaps it's because so many well-educated Ohioans are moving south to escape oppressive gun laws and years of tax and spending increases in the state brought about by legislators in the Ohio GOP.

Indeed, research shows Ohio has been losing an estimated 36,500 residents on average each year to other states since 2004. Ohio's trend of losing its college graduates is so prolific it has even earned a media nickname: "Brain Drain." And to what region of the country are the largest number of our graduates moving? You guessed it - the South!

In 1988, then-Texas State Treasurer Ann Richards mocked then-Vice President and GOP presidential nominee George H. W. Bush in her best southern drawl (the same accent Voinovich insinuates Ohioans can't relate to, apparently ignorant of the fact that many Ohioans in the southern part of the state use the same dialect):

"Poor George," Richards said. "He can't help it. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth."

Today, it seems Richards was almost right...she just got the wrong George.

Chad Baus is a Member of the Fulton County, OH Republican Central Committee and the Buckeye Firearms Association Vice Chairman.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 111th; banglist; bitterclingers; oh2010; ohio; voinovich
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To: parsifal
Is it true? Yankees got guns?

This one has several.

I'm retiring to Alabama, where I'll happily listen to remarks about my accent as I live free.

21 posted on 08/04/2009 8:55:08 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: SoCalPol

My Dad’s grandparents came to Ohio from Virginia where the family had settled before the Revolutionary War.

I have always thought Voinivich was slightly dense and he has proved that fact.


22 posted on 08/04/2009 8:59:10 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: HiramQuick

What did Bush have against Blackwell?


23 posted on 08/04/2009 9:40:49 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: RobbyS

Pres Bush has me perplexed, I will not be afraid to admit. On one hand he was a great president, the right man for the right time. A man of integrity and principles. But then, it was like the “jason” would emerge and he would do the most boneheaded things.

I suspect he (Pres Bush) listened to the RINO party line on support, Blackwell was never one of the “in crowd” with the sorry republican party we have here in Ohio. The party didn’t care for his conservatism.

The same case was with Spectator in PA. Support the long time party guy even though he has alwasy been a stinking democrat ... and now he is.


24 posted on 08/05/2009 2:43:23 AM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: cradle of freedom

Fically yes, kind of sort of. Remember it was he with butt boy Clintoon that tried to derail the B-2.

Also in following the good old boy Ohio republican way like tactles Taft, and Voinobitch, Kasich voted WITH Clintoon in most areas of gun control including the misnamed assault weapon ban.

In reality, despite Strickland foundering, I don’t think Kasich can over come the image of the ineptitude left by the republicans before him .. nor am I sure I want him to.


25 posted on 08/05/2009 3:00:59 AM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: HiramQuick

Well, here is one Ohioan who relates more to the people of the south than those of the north, regardless of whether the issue relates to guns or something else.


26 posted on 08/05/2009 5:51:53 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: HiramQuick

See? The intent is to break up the United States - again.


27 posted on 08/05/2009 6:34:35 AM PDT by RoadTest (I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.)
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To: parsifal

Yankees manufacture the guns the sotherners use.

When I competed in the musket and revolver competitions with my CW reenactment group, it was always the confederate groups who couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. It was comical. There were those who entered and they had never shot live fire from their old rusty guns. Their rusty guns were replicas and they looked like they went through a war. I saw two who had pushed a minie halfway down a musket barrel and they couldn’t get it out or all the way down. It looked like something out of the Three Stooges.
This is the way it was around the Great Lakes area. The Union guys shot circles around the confederates.

I’ll have to inform you that Camp Perry is in Ohio. That is the site of the NRA’s National Championships.


28 posted on 08/05/2009 8:41:16 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: HiramQuick

Us Southerners will take all the gun toting, flag waving Ohioans if Ohio will take all the liberal nuts from Arkansas/South!


29 posted on 08/05/2009 8:48:49 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: pray4liberty
What an EGO he has, thinking he's speaking for ALL Ohioans... since HE can't relate, NO ONE ELSE can, apparently. /sarc

There are way too many just like him from all states! It's time to CLEAN HOUSE!

They all think we are supposed to respect them but they sure as hell don't respect any of their constituents unless you SHOW THEM THE MONEY!

30 posted on 08/05/2009 8:57:16 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: HiramQuick

Bush reflects the ambivalence of Highland Park. And maybe his own family.


31 posted on 08/05/2009 9:01:16 AM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: HiramQuick

Is it 1861 already?


32 posted on 08/05/2009 9:03:55 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

It better not be. If worse comes to worse, I hope it’s either unintended consequences or a French Revolution.

Hopefully, the failed experiment of the dem party, slave owning confederacy is a thing of the past. A result of a justifiable homicide.


33 posted on 08/05/2009 9:14:25 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Shooter 2.5

AHA! It ain’t our fault. It’s those dang yankee guns!

parsy, who has a black powder one made in Connecticut he’s never loaded or fired, now that he thinks of it...


34 posted on 08/05/2009 9:18:07 AM PDT by parsifal ("All great men come out of the middle classes" (Ralph Waldo Emerson))
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To: parsifal

http://www.cva.com/

Tell me all about it.


35 posted on 08/05/2009 9:58:09 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: RobbyS

I think you have it perfectly ... if I ever hear the term “compassionate conservatism” in the context of moderates again, I’ll puke!

In reality CONSERVATISM is total COMPASSION. It is freedom. It is growth. It is derived by individual excellence to succeed. Competition makes us all better people. Take away INCENTIVE and you have communism, that is what the democrats want.

When the Berlin wall came down, I worked with a firm based in West Germany. The demise of the wall reunited Germany and the response from those employees were glad to be reunited with family. But it came at a huge price. East Germany had raised a generation of people that expected govt to supply for them. Inflation skyrocketed, a productive west Germany was being pulled down by the culture of east Germany.

East Germany held a generation of people that could not fathom going out and excelling, let alone understanding that they could flourish under INCENTIVE. Their INCENTIVES to succeed had been taken away from a command based govt.

Obam wants to remove INCENTIVE ... why become a Dr. if you can be a high school graduate union worker pushing a button 8 hours a day making more money?


36 posted on 08/05/2009 10:00:33 AM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: HiramQuick

Good description of the Ossies. It also describes many of the “hillbillies”(my wife is from WV) who went to work in the car industry. But to be fair, the unions and the companies both gave no incentives to excel and plenty incentives to take time off. One of my wife’s relatives was an inspector in a Ford plant, which had been built in the ‘20s. Rather than knock the think down and put up a better, air-conditioned one, but at the “cost” of reducing the number of workers, the company gave them better health insurance and laxer enforcement of attendence. “Jerry’ had no pride in his work and bragged about the ways he was able to miss work.


37 posted on 08/05/2009 2:58:05 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Darn! Now that is ingenuity! I wonder how much they are?

I bought a Conn. Firearms Co.(?) muzzle loader out of the paper and have no idea how to use it yet. Have to go buy some gunpowder, and 50 cal whatevers.

parsy.


38 posted on 08/05/2009 3:13:57 PM PDT by parsifal ("All great men come out of the middle classes" (Ralph Waldo Emerson))
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