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1 posted on 08/04/2009 5:21:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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In this case, I think, if there was astroturfing with regards to health care, it simply served the role of the little boy who finally yelled, “The Emperor Has No Clothes”.

IOW, the astroturfers just happened to get out the message that a lot of people were already thinking.

I know I have become more involved as a result of it, and I’ve not been involved with any astroturfing. I’m just pissed off.


2 posted on 08/04/2009 5:38:14 PM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (Cash for Clunkers is proof that Obama is waging war on the poor.)
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I haven’t seen any busses or pre-made signs like you see at the Dem protests. Usually you have to park a block away cause everyone drives themselves. This is Democracy at its purist and they hate it.

Pray for America


3 posted on 08/04/2009 5:47:34 PM PDT by bray (The messiah has no robe)
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“birthers” (aka constitutionalists)

“anti-birthers” (aka Marxist Obama minions and constitutional illiterates)


5 posted on 08/04/2009 6:01:13 PM PDT by bareford101 (Give me liberty, or give me death!)
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Sorry.

Another screwed-up, convulted diatribe from Atlantic Monthly. It would take me three six-packs, a fifth of Jim Beam, a dozen sub sandwiches and spectacular fireworks to make sense of it.

Not in the mood for personal discovery tonight.

Atlantic Monthly fiction query:

I walked over Penny Bridge and looked down on Werewolve Lane. My sister disappeared there 40 years ago, after Ted Kennedy drowned and murdered Mary Jo....

REJECT!! REJECT!!!

Oh, crap....


6 posted on 08/04/2009 6:09:00 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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Pure rubbish. “Astroturfing” is a trademarked tactic of the DemonRAT party. This article and the comments below are prime examples of “straw man” arguments.
“I've read nothing that leads me to believe” is a prime example of either an uneducated moron that can't read, or a sycophant Obama supporter that out and out lies about what is plainly printed in black and white.
As to those “whining” about “Republicans” interfering with the Democratic process, I give you this advice. Your Marxist agenda has been exposed, Americas eyes are opened. Your continued pushing for your agenda and ignoring the Constitution and the will of the people will bring ruin on you for generations.
7 posted on 08/04/2009 6:15:23 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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What would Obama know about organizing/astroturfing? /s

Pot/Kettle/Black if you ask me. It’s about time we got organized! ‘Cept I doubt a single one of those who’ve protested at town meetings has been paid/coerced/etc. by an insurance company to be there.


8 posted on 08/04/2009 6:21:49 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (PALIN - Supports a "path to citizenship" for ILLEGAL ALIENS.........DeMint/Sessions, 2012)
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It' ENORMOUSLY effective and I believe he would not be in the WH without it. The RNC still doesn't get it. Once again the paid bloggers are out in force to promote health care and they are organized. I saw one yesterday on You Tube and I took a screen shot. I don't know why Freepers can't organize and do the same. Also read the article below the pictures. Sorry for the source, but the message is what counts. PhotobucketPhotobucket

One of the many ways that the election of Barack Obama as president has echoed that of John F. Kennedy is his use of a new medium that will forever change politics. For Mr. Kennedy, it was television. For Mr. Obama, it is the Internet.

“Were it not for the Internet, Barack Obama would not be president. Were it not for the Internet, Barack Obama would not have been the nominee,” said Arianna Huffington, editor in chief of The Huffington Post.

Mr. Obama used the Internet to organize his supporters in a way that would have in the past required an army of volunteers and paid organizers on the ground, Mr. Trippi said.

“The tools changed between 2004 and 2008. Barack Obama won every single caucus state that matters, and he did it because of those tools, because he was able to move thousands of people to organize.”

Mr. Obama’s campaign took advantage of YouTube for free advertising. Mr. Trippi argued that those videos were more effective than television ads because viewers chose to watch them or received them from a friend instead of having their television shows interrupted.

“The campaign’s official stuff they created for YouTube was watched for 14.5 million hours,” Mr. Trippi said. “To buy 14.5 million hours on broadcast TV is $47 million.”

There has also been a sea change in fact-checking, with citizens using the Internet to find past speeches that prove a politician wrong and then using the Web to alert their fellow citizens.

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/07/how-obamas-internet-campaign-changed-politics/

9 posted on 08/04/2009 6:46:52 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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Yes... please. I heard this astroturfiing comment on liberal talk radio this morning and by this evening I still have no idea what people are talking about.


10 posted on 08/04/2009 6:49:46 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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‘Astroturfing’ was invented by Axelrod.


12 posted on 08/04/2009 7:20:40 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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13 posted on 08/04/2009 7:31:44 PM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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What is astroturfing, enviros replacing their lawns with fake grass?


15 posted on 08/04/2009 8:07:31 PM PDT by dalereed
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Astroturfing:


20 posted on 08/05/2009 5:06:50 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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Astroturfing strikes us -- and me -- as dishonest because it masks real motivations, like the desire of industries to maintain the status quo. It allows powerful interests to magnify their voices at the expense of those without a megaphone. Be skeptical of Astrotufing.

The implication of astroturfing is that it is financed by some organization, that the people protesting are being paid to take that position.

While that might be prevalent on the Left, with rent-a-mobs being bussed in with promises of food or entertainment, our side drives over in our own cars and at our own expense.

I think the psychiatric term is "projection": ascribing to others the faults and motivations that you yourself have.

21 posted on 08/05/2009 5:18:58 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/07/how-obamas-internet-campaign-changed-politics/

Bump


24 posted on 10/07/2009 11:07:21 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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