Posted on 08/04/2009 6:43:37 AM PDT by walsh
WASHINGTON — Six Texas congressmen are in the middle of a summertime political tempest sweeping the nation's capital over legislation to require future presidential candidates to show birth certificates to prove they are “natural born citizens” of the United States eligible to serve as president.
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If there was lets say a 1 or 2 million dollar donation sitting out there and the caveat was that the donation could only be completed in the name of the doctor that birthed Obama and the media actually picked up on the fact that the White House was refusing to release the name of the doctor the donation could not be made.
Obama would be blocking that money from going to the Childrens ward and effectively people will say HUH? why would he do that? Playing politicis with the well being of children?
What other conservatives are saying is: yes, we don't know who this guy is or where he came from, but we need to pick our battles wisely now in order to prevent this President who, like it or not, is sitting in that Oval Office right now, from doing as much damage to our country as he would prefer.
Because they're just now rounding second base. First, you ignore them. Second, you ridicule them. Third, you fight them. Home Plate, you agree with them.
Boortz has long maintained that the gay and abortion discussions devolve rapidly into heated arguments, don’t change anyone’s minds, and are not entertaining for radio.
And I’d pretty much agree.
Same with Rush and I don’t think he is prochoice or progay.
Sounds good. Good luck getting the money up front.
A few of the posters here have wondered why some conservatives are bashing the so called “birthers” and a handful of posters here have snidely referred to conservatives bashing birthers as the “smart ones”.
Hey, when Obama was born, is it true or false that there were four ways to obtain a Cert. of Live Birth, right? And isn’t it true that all one of the four ways was simply for someone (anyone) to call in to the authorizing agency and simply report a birth at home with no verification?
You see, if Boortz was principaled and not just narcissistic (which a lot of libertarians actuall are - even though I certainly lean libertarian), then why doesn’t he tell us the important verified facts that he possesses and even collect on the $100,000 reward that is floating out there for anyone who can prove Obama was truly born in Hawaii. I think Neal Boortz is actually just a showman putting on a fun show.
Rush Limbaugh is on record asking about the birth certificate on his show.
We “birthers” just want to know the truth. Show us the truth (and that does not mean referring to the COLB) and we’ll be happy.
I could easily take the attitude "I don't care what the media and those gutless moderates and independents think of me", but I'm not running for office and so it doesn't affect me.
On the other hand if I'm Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal, or Tim Pawlenty and I need these independent and moderate swing voters and decent media coverage to win the Presidential election in 2012, then it matters very much what these voters and the media think of me, to a point, because if they think I'm a far out conspiracy believer with no serious agenda to move this country away from Obama and his disastrous policies I'll lose and Obama will have four more years to wreck this country.
Now I'm not saying we sell out our principals and bow to the media like John McCain and Lindsey Graham unfortunately enjoy doing, because like it or not the media will never like or be the friend of conservatives. What we do need to do though is present a clear common sense conservative agenda to the voters the way Reagan did because that's how we win elections and advance the conservative movement.
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
I guess he put his stake in the ground. Very endearing to his audience.
I don’t get to listen to Neil but have enjoyed his website.
Please add me to your ping list for an update.
I am sure Neil will be taken flak and have a response.
It's not that any of us think the possibly constitutionally noncompliant circumstances of this POTUS' birth are irrelevant any more than the 'Birthers' here do.
But we often like to commiserate with each other around here that we are in a distinct minority ideologically with respect to to the rest of the country, and the cold hard reality of the facts on the ground is that many of the rank & file American people at large whose support Barack Obama needs to win in order to facilitate his usurpation of complete control over the US economy & fulfill his ambition to destroy her powerful place in the world don't see it the way rank & file Freepers do at all.
Other Americans know perfectly well that the Constitution specifies that only "natural born citizens" may accede to the office of the Presidency. But for them, merely the undisputed fact that his mother was born an American citizen on American soil suffices to deem him qualified, period, and they see all this proccupation with the arcane minutiae of the circumstances of his birth & the missing official documentation thereof as absurdly irrelevant legal mumbo-jumbo.
Further - and this is what should concern us now - they view all the people who are currently raising the birth issue as merely sore losers seeking to discredit this President, not on the relative merits of the policies he espouses & is currently rushing to implement, but on what to them is a contrived distraction based on a silly technicality.
That's not correct, his constitutional eligibility isn't a silly or irrelevant technicality at all, of course, but that is the reality of public perception, like it or not, and anybody who naively believes that PR is an unworthy consideration in devising a way to successfully counter this President's agenda with the general public is living in a fantasy world as clueless as any singles-scene loser who thinks he can get by with never bathing nor brushing his teeth & still get dates with beautiful women. Our political image - and the public's perception of our opposing agenda - is vitally important in fighting for the future of this republic, no matter what anybody else around here says.
Watching Republicans & others make such a relatively massive fuss over this birth issue (gleefully egged on by this administration, its toadying shills in the press & loyal hoaxers in the lefty blogosphere), a huge swath of the voting public is being encouraged to conclude that this President's ideological opposition, having been proven incapable of winning the last election, is now incapable of mounting an effective rational defense against his policies of governance on their own merits, so conservatives are therefore now reduced to desperately seeking to have him thrown out on what (to others, at least) is an utterly irrelevant hyper-technical criterion concoted by green eyeshade-wearing hyper-paranoiac consitutionalists. That's emphatically NOT true, but that is indeed how it is playing in Peoria at the moment. Check out his rebounding Rasmussen index ever since the issue was cynically ramped up again in the Obamedia to rescue his numbers.
And because it's playing so well in his favor at the moment is precisely why this President will continue to evade addressing the issue directly by simply declining to cough up his BC forthwith & that's exactly why his BFF's in the media are only too happy to highlight some conservatives' concerns about his consitutional illegitimacy and that's why hoaxers in the lefty blogosphere are going to such great lengths to try to ensnare gullible birthers with phony BC's: because it makes all conservatives look like they are devoid of a legitimate program for governance themselves and are incapable of devising an attractive, coherent alternative to this POTUS's ideological agenda.
In other words, the President & his Alinkyite strategists can discredit all conservative opposition to all of his entire political program as desperate, kneejerking hyperpartisan naysayers trying to disqualify this POTUS through the fine print because they can't do it with fine ideas and the Alinsky-Soros Party can proceed to institute its destructive agenda for this country unabated and unimpeded.
But alas, like moths to the flame, we're voluntarily aiding & abetting Barack Obama & his crooked cronies to do just that, it would seem. :-(
Well whatever damage he and the Congress are GOING TO DO.
they will do so in league with each other.
who is the author of the article? It says ‘Walsh’, but that is the poster.
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1. Yes, that is a great way to help Obama with future voters: Continue calling birthers who simply want to see Obama's 1961 birth certificate and Obama's Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard college records "stupid" and "idiots".
2. 2010 Senator and Representative elections: We birthers will see who is "stupid" at the 2010 and 2012 elections as angry birthers show their anger against Obama by voting against Democrat Senators and Representatives.
They were ignoring you for the last year. Then, it was because they were part of the cover up. Now they write stories about the silly birthers and it's because there's something to it.
Has it occured to you that you are viewing all this through the prism of what you want to believe?
He’s spent whatever amount he’s spent, following procedure responding to lawsuits filed against him. That’s how it works.
Show the real BC and it all goes away. What part of that is too hard for you to understand?
Watching Republicans & others make such a relatively massive fuss over this birth issue (gleefully egged on by this administration, its toadying shills in the press & loyal hoaxers in the lefty blogosphere), a huge swath of the voting public is being encouraged to conclude that this President's ideological opposition, having been proven incapable of winning the last election, is now incapable of mounting an effective rational defense against his policies of governance on their own merits, so conservatives are therefore now reduced to desperately seeking to have him thrown out on what (to others, at least) is an utterly irrelevant hyper-technical criterion concoted by green eyeshade-wearing hyper-paranoiac consitutionalists. That's emphatically NOT true, but that is indeed how it is playing in Peoria at the moment. Check out his rebounding Rasmussen index ever since the issue was cynically ramped up again in the Obamedia to rescue his numbers.
And because it's playing so well in his favor at the moment is precisely why this President will continue to evade addressing the issue directly by simply declining to cough up his BC forthwith & that's exactly why his BFF's in the media are only too happy to highlight some conservatives' concerns about his consitutional illegitimacy and that's why hoaxers in the lefty blogosphere are going to such great lengths to try to ensnare gullible birthers with phony BC's: because it makes all conservatives look like they are devoid of a legitimate program for governance themselves and are incapable of devising an attractive, coherent alternative to this POTUS's ideological agenda.
In other words, the President & his Alinkyite strategists can discredit all conservative opposition to all of his entire political program as desperate, kneejerking hyperpartisan naysayers trying to disqualify this POTUS through the fine print because they can't do it with fine ideas and the Alinsky-Soros Party can proceed to institute its destructive agenda for this country unabated and unimpeded.
But alas, like moths to the flame, we're voluntarily aiding & abetting Barack Obama & his crooked cronies to do just that, it would seem. :-(
Exactly. Whatever momentum the Birther movement had on it's side in terms of public relations has been hijacked and taken over by the Libs and the MSM.
In politics, public relations and image is everything regardless of the issues or information. With his experience in Hollywood, Ronald Reagan fully understood the value of PR and image and it helped him get elected.
But if people have the impression you're as nuts as Don Quixote tilting at windmills, they won't vote for you, period.
Without the independent vote helping conservatives win in 2010 and 2012, Barry's policies will continue to destroy America. This is exactly why the birther movement should be dropped before any more damage is done to this country or conservatism.
Good for Neal Boortz! :)
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