Posted on 08/03/2009 3:20:26 AM PDT by Scanian
As President Obama's poll numbers go south, and congressional leaders from his party continue to reveal just how far they're willing to overreach in chasing an ultra-liberal agenda, Republicans are finally seeing some light. After months-- heck years in the dark, advocating conservative ideals is beginning to feel acceptable again. But behind this tonic surge, a political identity crisis brews.
Amidst the hoopla concerning the floundering healthcare legislation and a beer summit, a leading Republican quietly made news last week by violating Reagan's 11th amendment, "Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican."
Ohio Senator George Voinovich, who is retiring when his term expires in 2011, casually fired shots across the bow of the party when the Columbus Dispatch asked him what the GOP's biggest problem was. His diagnosis was simple: "We got too many Jim DeMints (R-S.C.) and Tom Coburns (R-Ok.). It's the southerners," he remarked. "They get on TV and go 'errrr, errrrr.' People hear them and say, ‘These people, they're southerners. The party's being taken over by southerners. What the hell they got to do with Ohio?' "
The following day Senator David Vitter struck back in an interview with the Washington Times: "He's a moderate," the Louisiana Republican said of Voinovich, "[he's] really wishy-washy."
This kind of infighting is nothing new. Republican support has thrived in the South ever since the Southern Dixiecrats jumped to the GOP and the Nixon Southern Strategy put a lock onto the states of the Old Confederacy. As modern conservatism took shape in the 50s and 60s, GOP leaders like Gerald Ford and Nelson Rockefeller were increasingly on the outside of the party looking in, and branded "Rockefeller Republicans," or pejoratively, "RINOs" (Republicans in name only). It has been over seventy years since the GOP nominated a presidential candidate from
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Well......If Voinovich thinks he has the answers then maybe he should be running for President.
And the candidate we need to run in 2012 is Haley Barbour
Sarah Palin’s no southerner. And yet, she was mobbed in the south, on the campaign trail.
Problem solved, Senator Voinovich. Palin 2012.
I’m so sure you’re on board with this solution, lol.
Right. A short, fat, old southern white man against a slick, tall, young ethnic charmer.
Haley seems like a good man and he is obviously competent. But he cannot be elected in today’s world. Probably cannot even get the nomination.
Regional bigotry would make Haley’s accent, alone, the absolute punchline of every joke in the country.
We need to be practical, this time.
It's 11th COMMANDMENT, bonehead...
Palin 2012
you would think so?
be we cant lower our guard....these people have incredible dollar backing with the likes of Soros....who won them this past election. be aware.
This seems like sort of a diatribe against conservatives. I guess I don't know who Kyle Stone is. Is he a liberal? Is he a Democrat.
Here's maybe the question Kyle Stone needs to ask. Does it matter really which Party is in control when both Parties are racing to spend us into bankruptcy?
Barbour is just about the only credible conservative thinking of running besides Sarah Palin.
Maybe people will be hankering for an old white man after a few years of Odrama.
Bush and Clinton were southerners, they won. If you write off Southerners you’re writing a lot of our good potential candidates.
Voinocrotchoitch is a moron who’s never been to parts of his own state where some people talk with them funny accents.
Both Bushes are from Connecticut. Papa being brought up there....sonny brought up in Texas. Sonny being the more conservative of the 2 but both being RINOs in so many ways.
” Well......If Voinovich thinks he has the answers then maybe he should be running for President.
And the candidate we need to run in 2012 is Haley Barbour “
There’s your problem — any party that contains Voinovich *and* Barbour is not a party - it’s a mish-mash...
“The Big Tent” is a false goal — it demands that Principle be abandoned in favor of pandering, and that eliminates any credibility as ‘the party of grownups’......
Yeah, the GOP needs someone slick like Obama. That has worked out so well for the Nation!/s/
The media and the late night disinformation “comedians” are always going to slam Republicans so get used to it. If it is slicko Romney, they will make fun of his good looks and Mormon background. They hate Republicans so we should not try to pick canidates under the illusion it will please the Left.
We need conservatives who talk over their heads with solid ideas and knowledge. I don’t care if he or she is slick and one of the beautiful people or not. Being a beautiful person is a socialist “value.”
Per Wikipedia,,,
Kyle Stone (born on October 18, 1963) is a legendary pornographic actor (porn star). In 2007 he received the AVN Hall of Fame after 14 years in the porn industry. He often plays as the funny guy or as the older male in porn films.
Stone worked at a Los Angeles law firm prior to entering the adult film business. He had met up with a porn star by the name of Natasha after a wrong phone number call became a ....
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I recall Murtha winning reelection after slamming his constituents as rednecks and worse.
Except for the rest of us old white folk, no one else is going to be hankering after anyone like us. It takes majorities to win an election. Today, majorities are influenced by celebrity charisma.
Our entire bench, so far, is just not going to appeal to enough urban dwellers, moderates, youth and those with their hands out full of their wants, needs and wishes. Unfortunately for us and the nation, these are the majority. I am out here in the real world and I am usually saddened and shocked by the amount of bigotry against southern speech patterns and all the baggage the media and the progressives have managed to pile on the South. I am a Yankee who loves the food, accent and traditions of the South. Mention this in any even moderate Democrat group and the dismissal becomes loud and continuous.
And I agree with you: our best candidates are Southern. I just have enough contact with Democrats to be pretty sure the response to any of them will be contempt and boredom. I still hear that all the problems are the fault of the right, who *broke* our economy. We either bring back the Democrat and independent moderates to our side, or we lose, again.
Spit in one hand and wish in the other, see which fills up faster. The donks win over and over again because they are willing to be incrementalists who play the system. We lose because we don’t do that. I am hoping first for enough of a change in Congress to at least stonewall the progressive agenda. Beyond that, IMO, we need a Black Swan event to change things in our favor. I do hope zerO himself is that event.
Elections need majorities. We ignore the power of media at our peril. If beautiful people are a socialist value, why do they so hate Sarah? I will answer that: there is no consistency or logic on the progressive side. There is only agenda and they are quite willing and able to destroy anyone on our side who might challenge them on their own terms, let alone on ours.
It isn’t about pleasing the progressives and hard left. Not even their own candidates please them. What we need is someone who can peel off the 15%-20% in the middle and we cannot and have not done that yet. They may hate zerO’s policies, but they still love _him_. Without someone with looks, charisma, gravitas and a connection to the people of today, we will not win the General. I have no candidate, yet. But my experience indicates to me that Romney has the best chance, at this moment, precisely because he is liberal. Conservatives will reject him, but if enough moderates are frightened of zerO and the progressives, they _might_ consider a liberal Republican. I do not think Romney hates America, white people or the constitution, but if he did, it would give him an even larger advantage. We need to regain power in Congress and use that as a check rein on whichever candidate we run for POTUS.
Our choices, in terms of electability, frankly suck. Pragmatism is a conservative value. Or should be.
Incrementalism is their way and it works for THEM and their political religion.
It has not and will not work for us... Besides, That would require us to live for an extended period of time under their purview as their slaves and cattle.
Sorry man... but, F—k that!
Freedom is something Im not willing to wait for any longer. It is time to get deadly serious about getting it back. No more games, political or otherwise... Just decisive action aimed at the restoration of freedom and liberty to those who still want it.
That means we can no longer afford to have “moderate” socialists among our ranks. We are going to be required to sink our teeth into a few states and set them free from the marxist tyranny of our fedgov. We are going to need to get the “conservatives” of that state behind us and the only way to do that is to be 100% committed to the cause. The folks on OUR side WILL commit ONLY when they sense that everyone else is committed to the same goal and cause. They dont want incremental change, nor should they. They want what should never have been taken away and they want it NOW. Working with socialist republicans weakens that commitment and makes it impossible to recruit real conservatives to do the hard work thats going to be needed.
Were not going to play their game any more. We are going to get back our freedom in a way that doesn’t require the idiots who vote for marxists to agree with us.
Your focus on the fedgov as the means and path to regaining our freedom is wrong.
Given the current infrastructure the marxists have already built within this nation, it will be (and has been) IMPOSSIBLE to approach this battle from a national perspective by attempting to get idiots to ignore the media and vote for your candidate. Even when you get your people in, the media can and WILL either destroy them with a CONSTANT barrage of slanders or force them to “moderate” just to alleviate the pressure on their lives.
Really... Have you even been paying attention the last couple of decades?
No more games and no more rules. The only thing that matters is getting our freedom back... Starting NOW.
What accent?
Lost Creek, WV
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