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Winds shifting on gay marriage
Townhall.com ^ | August 1, 2009 | Kathryn Lopez

Posted on 08/01/2009 3:52:05 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: rbg81

“The problem is that you still have judges who want gay marriage and don’t care a whit about public opinion. That and liberal State legislatures who are only too happy to comply with their decrees.”

Agree - simply a tactical retreat - liberals NEVER concede defeat. They knew they were getting a backlash, simply because the country, as a whole will not accept that agenda. So back to what works:

1) Courts
2) Public Schools, under the guise of non-bullying. They need to get one more generation of kids indoctrinated, and then they will be pushing the degree of public support necessary for a frontal assault (so to speak).


21 posted on 08/01/2009 7:58:14 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

Thanks for the link- I like Tammy’s writing and thinking.


22 posted on 08/01/2009 8:08:09 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: lightman

(Former) Bishop Chilstrom wrote (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2304933/posts):

“I’d like to share my perspective on the fundamental issues that are raised in the CORE Letter and invite you — if you wish — to reply. I’m open to seeing things from a perspective that may not have occurred to me.

“If you asked those in this generation if our stance on homosexuality kept them away or drove them to another denomination they would probably look at you and wonder where you’ve been in the last couple of decades. . .

“Are we in the ELCA on our way to becoming a minority people in an alien culture? Possibly so.”

Perhaps the new-think in this article will be just in time for all the delegates and ELCA members who adjust their theology after holding their finger up to see where the wind is coming from!

12There is a way which seems right to a man,
But its end is the way of death. Pr 14

OOPS! Here I go again, listening to Scripture for God’s perfect, loving instruction for living, even though the bishop also asserts:

“So we have to ask – as we did with the role of women and the place of divorced persons — if a collection of a few verses is the last word. Or is Christ saying something different to us at this moment in the history of the church?”


23 posted on 08/01/2009 8:43:16 AM PDT by aussiemom
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To: Kaslin
Carrie Prejean is now a face of that kind of tolerance. The contrast of her measured, mildly offered opinion to the angry, ugly Internet response from beauty-contestant judge Perez Hilton, who asked Prejean the fateful question, was striking. As Maggie Gallagher puts it, Hilton's Web video "reminded too many people of what they saw after Prop 8."


24 posted on 08/01/2009 9:52:09 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin is our Iron Lady from the North)
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To: Kaslin

Follow the money. If legally married partner is eligible for benefits. How much does that cost taxpayers for state/fed employees?


25 posted on 08/01/2009 10:08:15 AM PDT by Bhoy
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To: Erik Latranyi
Hamburger is steak....just different.

But homosexual "marriage" is to marriage as a wax model of a hamburger is to a steak. Hamburgers and steaks, after all, are both edible.

Homosexual "marriage" is so unlike marriage that the same word cannot be used properly of both. I mean to say, if you want to talk about something you call "gay marriage", then you need a different word to name the union of a man and a woman.

We have got so used to equivocation these days that it gets mistaken for a substantive discussion.

26 posted on 08/01/2009 2:25:13 PM PDT by thulldud (It HAS happened here!)
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To: Prodigal Son; Kaslin
Good read.

Concurring bump. And it's good news, as well as a good read.

The John Barrowman "money quote" is one of several that go to this issue. Gay diva Michelangelo Signorile spilled the beans years ago in The Village Voice in the course of his long-running diatribe against Andrew Sullivan, when he finally stated openly what conservatives would have played hell to establish on their own, viz., that gay marriage has always been about destroying the heteronormative child-nursery called marriage, precisely because it is heteronormative.

Mating displays and nesting arrangements show all the world nature's providence for the raising of young, and just by existing, they rebuke as deviant the empty couplings of homosexuals.

27 posted on 08/01/2009 4:56:10 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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What’s scary though is the breakdown of this issue among age groups.

Liberals use those numbers as part of their propaganda armory when they are campaigning against wishy-washy (RiNO) supporters of the natural moral order.

The numbers they don't use are those that show shifting of attitudes with age, as the cohorts mature.

They're not quite in such a hurry to lay those numbers out for us.

28 posted on 08/01/2009 5:17:14 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: yavote

Reminds me of a song from SOUTH PACIFIC...

You’ve got to be taught
To hate and fear,
You’ve got to be taught
From year to year,
It’s got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You’ve got to be carefully taught.

You’ve got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a diff’rent shade,
You’ve got to be carefully taught.

You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate,
You’ve got to be carefully taught!

Thank you NEA and millions of parents who have GIVEN their children to Moleck!


29 posted on 08/02/2009 4:04:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin
I hope everyone will read Maggie Gallagher's full National Review article. It is an excellent comprehensive narrative of the homo-activists' activities over the past several decades to normalize perversion. She is a formidable, articulate champion of traditional values who deserves our wholehearted gratitude and support for the thankless job of continually confronting the vilest homo-nazis imaginable.

I think that as the homo-leftists, in their drunken frenzy of imagined power, carelessly continue their in-your-face, outrageous actions, that the general public - even those who have tried not to pay attention out of disgust - will become fully aware of their agenda to shove their value system on everyone. I hope people wake up and push back hard.

30 posted on 08/02/2009 1:28:23 PM PDT by fwdude (Be still, my soul: the waves and winds still know His voice who ruled them while He dwelt below.)
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