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JCPD Chief: We Gotta Get These Guns Off Streets
CBS 2 HD News ^ | July 17, 2009 | Kathryn Brown

Posted on 07/31/2009 5:48:34 PM PDT by Misterioso

Alleged Drug Dealers, Robbers Had Been Under Surveillance By Officers Before All Hell Broke Loose Thursday Morning

Pump-Action Automatic Shotgun Used Against Cops, 5 Wounded

JERSEY CITY, N.J. (CBS) ―Jersey city looked more like a war zone early Thursday morning.

In the hours since the deadly shootout that injured five police officers doctors have been working furiously to save the lives of the two most critically hurt.

The gunfight erupted just before dawn Thursday during a police stakeout in Jersey City.

Officers were tracking the two people seen in a surveillance video robbing and shooting a man last month.

But they said the suspects -- Hassan Shakur and Amanda Anderson -- were ready for them and armed with lethal firepower.

(Excerpt) Read more at wcbstv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; police; shootout
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To: Misterioso

They should get the criminals off the streets, then the guns won’t matter.


41 posted on 07/31/2009 7:07:17 PM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: Wycowboy

He’s probably not forced to do a PFT on a yearly basis. Having spent time in Jersey City many years ago it’s a dump and has always been dangerous.


42 posted on 07/31/2009 7:18:18 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( MARSOC DAD)
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To: Misterioso

Don’t know but my Dad had one that I used as a kid to rabbit hunt. Don’t remember hitting anything, must have been the gun.


43 posted on 07/31/2009 7:22:20 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( MARSOC DAD)
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To: Misterioso

The guy hates the NRA about as much as some Freepers.


44 posted on 07/31/2009 7:31:22 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Misterioso

JC Higgins? My guess would be Savage as they made some of the private brand guns. Only a guess as it has been a long time.
barbra ann


45 posted on 07/31/2009 7:31:24 PM PDT by barb-tex (Regardless of what you may have heard Sarah is not gone!)
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To: Wycowboy
This Chief is an idiot, and he has no business being chief of anything.

And then you consider that he IS the chief it kind of makes you wonder about those he leads doesn't it.

46 posted on 07/31/2009 7:35:22 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: barb-tex

OK I guessed wrong. It was Hi Standard now that I think on it.
barbra ann


47 posted on 07/31/2009 7:37:54 PM PDT by barb-tex (Regardless of what you may have heard Sarah is not gone!)
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To: Dead Corpse

flip a coin.We will have to conquer both.


48 posted on 07/31/2009 7:42:46 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: Jeff Head

Bravo!!
Excellent post.
Keep up the good work.


49 posted on 07/31/2009 8:38:24 PM PDT by hyperconservative (Palin/Malkin 2012(if we're still a country by then))
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To: Misterioso

I think that it was Savage arms Co.


50 posted on 07/31/2009 9:10:57 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: Jeff Head
That political appointee used his men's lives to promote his own gun control agenda.

IMO he is guilty of attempted murder. In my day officers who used their troops lives as ladder steps of their career climbing .....were fragged !

Doom on him an his actions

51 posted on 07/31/2009 9:43:08 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Recon Dad
A pump shotgun is illegal in NJ?

No, but you need a state issued permit to buy one, and another to carry it, but not in ones home, place of business, or going to and from a licensed range, with the weapon unloaded and locked away. They are also registered.

Wanna bet this one wasn't registered, and the guy wielding it did not get a permit to purchase it, nor one to carry it.

But of course police training and tactics were fine, according to the "director".

Jersey City Police Director Sam Jefferson said the incident went according to training police officers receive, despite the seemingly violent outcome of the shootout.

52 posted on 07/31/2009 9:55:47 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Misterioso
Who made the JC Higgins pump for Sears? Anybody know?

High Standard, mostly, but also several others. Here's a good cross reference link, which includes all sorts of guns, not just pump shotguns. I know mine, a plain Jane mid sixties version in 20 gauge, and my father's late 40s/early 50s really plain Jane 12 gauge where both High Standard. Some years, about 8, after I got it, I saw a High Standard just like it, in the early '70s. That was at what today would be a standard "stop and rob". Not then. It was Holiday gas station and convince store. They had some junk food, some decent food, car chains, hammers, shovels, bait, fishing supplies, ammunition and guns. Don't recall if they any handguns, but they did have both .22 and center fire rifles, along with the shotguns Not more than one of each model/caliber in the rack. They did have, I think, handgun ammunition.

Sadly today, while still around they are just another stop and rob, sometimes with bait and fishing tackle, depending on location.

Around 50, yes fifty, years after my Mom bought my Dad that 12 gauge, I saw one, branded High Standard, but made by Armscor in the Philippines, that was pretty much it's twin, right down to the jeweled bolt and the general "feel" of the action. Although some of the cosmetics weren't quite as nice. Just like Dad's but not mine, if you would hold the gun vertically, barrel up, with your hand off the fore grip, and trip the slide release, the action would open about half way. They were really smooth.

The '40s JC Higgins is still soldiering on, at least it was a couple of years ago. My brother had it refinished, and the cracked stock repaired, for his son,the youngest grandchild of the original owner, to use in high school level trap competitions. He's got a new Remington now, it's a might lighter than the JC Higgins, but the Higgens/High Standard still get's 'er done.

53 posted on 07/31/2009 10:26:27 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Venturer
The first gun I ever owned was a JC Higgins Pump. I have never hunted man in my life.

So was mine, and neither have I, but if I start, it won't be with my "serious social purposes shotgun", it'll be with my 7.62x51 Ugly Black Sniper Rifle, most likely anyway. Unlike pheasants, men often shoot back, and I want to be as far away as possible, in case the target has friends nearby.

That's not to say shotguns have no place in self defense, and in certain limited scenarios in offense as well. Else why would I have an Ugly Black Shotgun? Hmm?

54 posted on 07/31/2009 10:30:55 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Thanks for your insights. It’s what makes America what she is: the one and only.


55 posted on 08/01/2009 1:57:53 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Misterioso

It is never “We Gotta Get These Criminals Off Streets” from the leftist aka progressive gun haters.

The leftist aka progressive gun haters have one goal. And that is to ban the right to bear arms.


56 posted on 08/01/2009 8:26:05 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: Misterioso

It’s the latest thing in double barrels, a Remington 870 pump combined with a Benelli automatic, two magazines, two barrels but mounted on a common stock. First you fire the whole magazine from the Benelli in one burst, then you use the pump action to clean up what you missed, the extra weight makes the felt recoil minimal. I’ll bet you didn’t even know about it did you?


57 posted on 08/01/2009 9:58:54 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: RipSawyer

My old Wingmaster is obsolete?


58 posted on 08/01/2009 10:08:39 AM PDT by Misterioso
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