I am now getting tin foil hives
Posted on 07/30/2009 8:35:25 PM PDT by Edward Watson
The entire birther argument, that Obama was actually born in Kenya instead of the US, making him ineligible for holding the office of the President of the US, is a spurious argument. It plays into Obama and the liberals hands - they want this to continue since it makes regular conservatives and opponents into fringe wackos.
Not one of us would've looked harder at his legitimacy than Hilary Clinton and the entire Clinton smear machine during the Democratic primaries. That magic bullet would've given Hilary the presidency - and yet nada, bupkis.
There are many valid reasons to oppose Obama and the liberals, but his birthplace isn't one of them.
I am now getting tin foil hives
WOSG believe a .JPEG uploaded to the internet is all the proof we need for Obama.
Long Form Smong Form....Facecheck.org said it and he/she believes it
Wow, aren’t you slick. Moving your primary source from factcheck.org to a site that quotes factcheck.org. Impressive.
I’m fairly certain there exists more than one variable in his calculus, but that is undoubtedly one of them!
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?cat=3
go past all those ss# about 1/4 of the way down
and read attachment c d &e
oh my
Here’s a simple question, and please be honest: *IF* Barack Obama was a Republican and most especially *IF* he was a conservative; would your stance be exactly identical or would you insist that there is no *practical* difference since common usage doesn’t recognize a distinction between a regular citizen who was born within the territory of the United States and that of a natural born citizen, whose parents are also both Americans?
Who then will be screaming about an illegitimate president? Wouldn’t it be the MSM, liberals, unions, and Democrats while conservatives will be defending his legitimacy?
This shows this entire birther issue is merely political grandstanding since the ideological views of Obama is the PRIMARY reason for the stances of the critics.
says you
This shows this entire birther issue is merely political grandstanding since the ideological views of Obama is the PRIMARY reason for the stances of the critics.
Why do you care aren’t you a canadian?
Yeah...I thought that was funny. I don’t care if he was born there or not but I would like to see the real document not the baloney that Factcheck puts out. Anybody can get one of those JPEGs from HI..you don’t have to be born there. I still think if there is a birth issue..the biggest one is that he was a Brit at birth.
Well, Edward, the difference between the conservatives and libs is that conservatives are perfectly willing to ditch their own when they go off the reservation. I hammered Bush on the jailing of the border agents and his collaboration with the dimwits on amnesty. I would have been perfectly willing to do the same on the birth issue if there was one. A perfect example of the Dimwits is the dropping of charges against the thugs at the Philadelphia polling place. The Demoncrats use their offices to further their party not the truth since truth to them is whatever gives their players more power.
I am an equal opportunity constitutionalist. I want both dens of criminals (Republicans and Democrats) to yeild to the constitution. I want all people in power to yield to the constitution. I have felt for a long time that we have permited the three branches to travel so far from the constitution that it may not even exist anymore. I want it back.
I was totally let down by Republicans when they did not axe the Left’s unconstitutional departments in the Executive Branch when they unseated Democrats.
And, it is also true that I despise socialism and liberal racism.
You betcha! I’m a Canadian who LOVES America and only want it to continue being the greatest force for good in human history.
My citizenship is besides the point - I’m *consistently* honest with my position.
My posts speak for themselves - I am opposed to Obama and his actions and believe they are designed to destroy America from a meritorious nation into a socialist one.
You just wait, I believe and IINM, before his term expires, we will begin to see the summary confiscation of assets of targeted *enemies of the people* that will then be given to the *oppressed* minorities. IOW, properties of white conservatives will be seized and given to liberal blacks and other minorities in the interest of *fairness.*
When they knock on your door and tell you you have an hour to vacate the premises because your house is slated to be given to a black single mother with six kids who only finished an eight-grade education; think of me and this forewarning. Let’s see if your arrogance counts for anything on that day.
That strawman again... I corrected you already, quit repeating a lie. COLB alone isnt “all the proof”, there are 7 pieces of evidence only 1 of which is the COLB itself.
http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2009/08/birther-madness-ii-bhos-birthplace.html
here are additional points:
3. The newspapers in turn got their data from the Health Records Office of Hawaii. What this further means is that Obama’s records were put on file between Aug 4 and Aug 14, 1961.
4. Common sense: Lack of money means they were tied to the Island. Stanley Dunham and Barack Obama Sr lived, met and were students in Honolulu. That was there hometown. As students, they had little money, so the natural conclusion would be that they would have very likely had their baby in Honolulu. They had a Marriage in Feb, baby in August; honeymoon was on another Hawaiian island; if they were going to travel anywhere else, THAT would have been the time to do it.
5. State officials from Hawaii vouched for his birth records being on file and him being born in Hawaii: “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/27/AR2009072703114.html
6. Obama obtained US passports for overseas travel. He needed valid birth certification that proved US citizenship to do so. While the above COLB is from 2007, he needed a prior one to get his passport to go to Kenya. This further validates that he has birth records AND they show his birth in the US.
7. There was a claim that his grandmother said he was born in Kenya. That report is false and based on selective editing of an interview. See:
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/12/05/birth_certificate/
“During the interview, which was conducted through a translator by a street preacher named Ron McRae, Sarah Obama does in fact say she was present. But it’s clear that there was a mistranslation, because as soon as McRae very excitedly starts to try to get additional details, the people on the other end of the line realize what’s happened and say, over and over again, that Obama was born in the U.S. “
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