Posted on 07/30/2009 4:07:43 PM PDT by pissant
Kevin, you're right re the Kenyan citizenship. At the time of his birth, Barack Obama was the son of a British subject — like every American president up to Martin van Buren. I believe, under certain interpretations of Britain's revised nationality law, President Obama would qualify as a "British Overseas Citizen" — for whatever that's worth (unlike most other countries, where it's merely a rhetorical term, Britain has literal and official categories of third-class citizenship).
But the rest of Andy's piece I found most interesting. It's the story of a self-invented man, a kind of Gatsby for the multiculti age who appears fully-formed on the world stage and for whom the first few decades of his short existence are mostly a source of misty watercolored but highly calculated anecdotage that, when you try to pin it down, seems to wiggle free of such humdrum earthbound concepts as facts.
Do I think he was born in Hawaii? Yes — if only because the alternative is way too audacious (to use an Obama-ism) to contemplate.
But do I think there's something on the long-form birth certificate he doesn't want us to see? Yes. That would seem entirely likely — and consistent with his modus operandi.
As for the alleged "kookiness" of birthers, a true conspiracy theorist would surely believe that Obama deliberately started the birth-certificate business in order to make it easier to dismiss his opponents as deranged.
(Excerpt) Read more at corner.nationalreview.com ...
Farah and Corsi and the boys at WND are more than holding up their end of the deal
Yes, one who have to be completely bonkers to believe that Obama, the media, kos, move-on, Du etc, all conspired to invent the birther movement so they could bring conservatives into it and paint them as nutty, and even bring in talk radio conservatives to help out. LOL!
Hey, those people think we are retards for not being liberal zombies. Whether it is BO's BC or GW worship, if we don't agree with them we are radical retards that need to be removed from circulation.
Trust me, they don't think we should just be silenced, we should be removed.
That’s not my read of this column. Steyn’s admitting there’s likely something on the BC he doesn’t want us to see, and as for him being born in Kenya - he’s basically saying its likely he was, because to think otherwise is so beyond the pale that its difficult to countenance.
In fact, he’s saying the real kooks are ones that think it was Obama that cooked the controversy up just to suck in conservatives.
Mark Steyn is a sensible man. Like man of us, he can’t help but see that the only reasons for Obama *not* to resolve the issue by publishing the certificate are (a) hiding something, or (b) being an *ssh*le.
What?? When??
Or we would have seen it by now.
And there would not have been this tremendous effort by the left to discredit those who want to see it by classifying them as “conspiracy theorists” akin to 9/11 “truthers.”
But as long as that birth certificate remains hidden, this story will not go away.
It will only get bigger. And bigger.
“Idiots, retards,...” don’t forget to add ‘tinfoilers, nutz (must be spelled with a ‘z’), misguided, grassy knollers, and (ahem, thanks Ann) cranks.’
I am glad Mark Steyn is onboard and questioning The Birth as well...I would have been heartbroken if he had called any names.
Another great post, is there an actual ping list? I always have to ‘search?’
Huh? How are you disagreeing with me. Steyn wants to see the birth certificate. The real one. Because he knows he’s hiding something.
Ping lucyT or null and void and ask to get on their list.
BIRTHERS? I had to show MY REAL certified birth certificate to get driver’s license. I had to show the kids’ birth certificates to get their passports. What is the Big Deal with Obama. What is he so fearful of??????
Certainly a reasonable motivation for the administration to encourage it.
Also, he left USA and went to Indonesia, and probably never became a US citizen again when he returned?
Interesting.
Ant,
Tnx.
Steyn,
Thank you, Mr. Steyn.
Mark Steyn and Andy McCarthy make a Lot of sense on all this
Still I have another question :
Polarik(sp?) says the Certification of Birth that has been posted on line is a photoshop forgery.
Can we have more verification of this ? ....or can that be debunked?
I want more clarity
Thanks LVRon, will do.
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