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Obama’s Science Czar: Babies Aren’t Human Until They’ve Been Socialized
Stop the ACLU ^ | 29 July 09 | Van Helsing

Posted on 07/29/2009 1:27:12 PM PDT by Jay777

A large part of the horror of abortion lies in the monstrous presumption of liberals declaring that human life begins not at conception, but whenever they say it does. Maybe that’s six weeks, maybe six months. Maybe it’s years. Obama’s Science Czar John Holdren (the guy who wanted to put a sterilizing agent in our drinking water) gives us an idea of how slippery this slope can get. From his book Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions, via Patterico’s Pontifications:

The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being. We knew that human fetuses aren’t human, according to liberal ideology. Now we learn that they remain nonhuman even after they are born, until such a time as priests of The State like Holdren deem them to have been sufficiently socialized.

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To: Jay777

This quote calls for the full monty. I wrote an article projecting where the “logic” of abortion leads in 1977 for my satire class in college. Here it is:

Here is an essay I wrote in college in 1977 in response to Roe v. Wade.

The Final Solution to Overpopulation

Of course, abortion is the best form of birth control. Condoms break, you can forget to take the pill, and IUDs can pierce a woman’s uterus and scar and injure her. Spermicidal jellies and foams are messy and not likely to be used. Tubule ligation and vasectomies work only for those who are willing to make such a commitment, as does abstinence. Pregnancies caused by birth control mistakes are proverbial in our culture. The surest solution to the world’s greatest problem, that of overpopulation, is abortion. It is safe when done early in pregnancy, and 100% certain to eliminate an unwanted pregnancy. However, abortion doesn’t go far enough in reducing population growth, and in reducing population itself.

The world’s population has increased nearly three billion since the landmark Supreme Court decision, Roe v. Wade in 1973. World population under the best estimates will stabilize at eleven billion after 2050. The world’s ecosystem is already severely stressed with the six billion people on the earth. More needs to be done to reduce population. What is the next step?

Roe v. Wade determined the first 23 weeks of pregnancy are eligible for abortion since the fetus is not yet viable. More recent court rulings have permitted abortions through the last trimester of pregnancy for the health of the mother, mental and physical. Using the principle of “viability” and the principle of what is best for the mental and physical health of humanity, the next logical step is to permit “post natal abortions” (PNAs) on non-viable “post natal fetuses” (PNFs).

Although the majority of PNFs are wanted, not a single PNF is viable. It cannot survive without an adult caregiver. Further, they are a mental and physical burden upon the caregiver and should not be permitted to live without the full and willing desire of the caregiver. Why should PNFs be permitted to burden our sorely taxed ecosystem by allowing unwanted ones to grow to full maturity? Is it not kinder, gentler, and more humane to safely terminate them should the caregiver find them a burden? Is not the caregiver fully within their privacy rights to manage this life form within their own home as they see fit?

There need be no moral qualms about this policy whatsoever. Our society has already established the legal morality of abortion up through the end of the third trimester. What difference should the simple process of parturition make to morality of removing a non-viable life form from a possibly miserable existence? Just as abortion removes the burden of an unwanted fetus from society, so a PNA can terminate the mental and physical burden of an undesired PNF. A simple injection of potassium cyanide or a pill of the same can quickly and painlessly remove this ecological disaster waiting to happen.

The benefits of PNA’s cannot be exaggerated. They are safer than abortions in the third trimester. They alleviate a financial burden on the family and society in general, reserving resources for those individuals chosen to enter the human family. With a worldwide policy of PNAs, all individuals will be wanted. Without undesired PNFs, the negative influence of humanity upon the earth will decrease, not increase. Air and water pollution will begin to decrease. The welfare rolls will decrease, reducing the tax burden.

Yet, even a vigorous, worldwide program of PNAs, administrated under the auspices of the United Nation’s World Health Organization (WHO) does not go far enough. There are millions and billions of individuals worldwide who are no longer viable. Although they were human at one time, they are no longer self-supporting. Many can no longer communicate and are not conscious. They are all draining society’s resources and all require care of some other human being. Using the same moral principle as Roe v. Wade and other pro-abortion rulings, we may safely and ethically consider such entities as “post human lives” (PHLs). In view of human induced global warming and the possible worldwide catastrophe that is pending, is it not nobler to remove these life forms from existence than to permit them to continue to consume the world’s limited resources? Such an act of mercy would spare the functioning, productive humanity this unwanted burden, and more importantly, would reduce the space pressures humanity puts on endangered species worldwide. Concurrent with a program of PNAs there must be a worldwide program of “post human abortions” (PHAs).

As good as PNAs would be, PHAs would be even better. PHLs consume far more resources than PNFs. All the benefits enumerated for PNAs would be multiply true for PHAs. Society would become free of all individuals who are not productive. Taxes could be reduced, or the freed up funds could go toward art, literature, and good public works. Cares and worries of old age would be a thing of the past. Once a person becomes a burden to anyone, they are simply considered a PHL and given a gentle PHA. The social security trust fund will become adequate and even generous, with a reduced future burden upon working humanity.

PNAs and PHLs have benefits even beyond these. They will give birth to a new age of medical research. There will be an unlimited supply of organs and stem cells for the benefit of human population. Very likely, the human lifetime will be considerably extended. This will create additional population pressure, so PNAs and PHAs need to be executed and enforced ubiquitously.

How is a sweeping, worldwide program of PNAs and PHAs best to be administrated and implemented? It should start with the UN. As part of UN membership, every country should have laws that require every caregiver to sign a certificate of humanity to their offspring or to any non-viable entity in their care. At a minimum, these certificates should be renewed annually, like drivers’ licenses. Each country may add additional requirements for their definition of viable humanity. This allows each country to retain its own sovereignty and cultural distinctiveness. By entrusting such a critical definition to each federal government, we can be sure the same care and wisdom shown in governmental taxing and welfare programs will be applied toward this critical program of PNAs and PHAs.

It is expected that some countries will put political requirements into their definition of humanity, some will put religious requirements, some physical requirements, such as a certain height, weight, body build, or skin color. Aside from promoting cultural diversity, this mosaic of laws will catch PHL’s who travel from one country to another and further reduce world population. The varied laws will also purify the human gene pool, catching the ignorant and unwary, classifying them as PHLs and terminating them, protecting mother Earth from the corrosive effects of their former human existence.

Even such a beneficial program will surely have opposition. Religious extremists and radical anarchists are likely to resist blessing mankind with a healthier, less intrusive life upon this earth. A simple and effective method of dealing with such evil-minded beings is to classify them as PHLs and perform PHAs upon them. This action will quickly bring about worldwide consensus for this uniquely effective approach to population control.

With unwanted PNFs eliminated through PNAs, with burdensome PHLs removed through PHAs, with humanity’s genetic lines improved through the forced evolutionary selection of diverse laws worldwide, a new age will dawn. No longer will pollution wreck our planet’s rivers, lakes, and oceans. No longer will smog dominate cities. No longer will teeming millions suffer and starve. No longer will species die out through human encroachment upon their habitats. With the moral principles put forth in Roe v. Wade, logically extended and applied, humanity will joyfully march forward into a brave, new world.


81 posted on 07/29/2009 4:01:44 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him should not die)
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To: melsec

not if she ate a baby rat. they ain’t humans


82 posted on 07/29/2009 4:04:00 PM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: Jay777

More and more of this wretchedness from zer0bama’s circle of associates continues to round out the true picture of the utter lack of character of our “emperor”...

On second thought, he does have character - almost all of it bad.

A.A.C.


83 posted on 07/29/2009 4:05:30 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: Jay777

Ah a Hitler devotee. Scarey how so many of Zero’s cronies spout Nazi c*** without hesitation.


84 posted on 07/29/2009 4:10:24 PM PDT by Marty62
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To: Jay777

In other words....Indoctrinated?? I can only guess who they would grant full “Citzen” status to......Ughhh these people make me sick....


85 posted on 07/29/2009 4:12:02 PM PDT by jakerobins ( NO)
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To: Jenny217

Still, I would be willing to try a 2 x 6 or perhaps a 4 x 4...

Several strokes to either temple, just to make sure.

Even if I was not successful, I would at least feel better for having tried...sort of a therapeutic personal catharsis!

A.A.C.


86 posted on 07/29/2009 4:14:03 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: Lurker

“If we feel and experience this great era thus, then we shall not be disturbed by details and individual failures. We shall know then that every road leads us forward, no matter how much it seems to go in another direction. And above all, we shall then maintain our passionate desire to revolutionize the world to an extent unparalleled in history. It gives us also a special, secret pleasure to see how the people about us are unaware of what is really happening to them. They gaze fascinated at one or two familiar superficialities, such as possessions and income and rank and other outworn conceptions. As long as these are kept intact, they are quite satisfied. But in the meantime they have entered a new relation; a powerful social force has caught them up. They themselves are changed. What are ownership and income to that? Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings.” Adolf Hitler

That’s a HITLER quote? Reads like Democratic Party talking points;)


87 posted on 07/29/2009 4:21:13 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Jay777

The Nazis had nothing on these douchebags.

Mengele would be proud.


88 posted on 07/29/2009 4:24:54 PM PDT by Yankee (Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
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To: BertWheeler

” It’s amazing that no one has picked this up.” Nobody in the MSM WANTS to acknowledge the connection between abortion at the beginning of life and “abortion” at the end of life. I imagine the old feminazis are getting nervous, though.....


89 posted on 07/29/2009 4:27:22 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Keith in Iowa
I know some people in their mid 40’s who’ve yet to be socialized,

OK I resemble that remark...!!! OK, maybe 50. Does that make me a non human?

90 posted on 07/29/2009 4:28:27 PM PDT by MrPiper
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To: Don Corleone

It’s too bad most voters are more concerned about what free handouts they’re going to get. But I guess this is what they wanted anyway. Freedom of convenience at all costs.


91 posted on 07/29/2009 4:30:41 PM PDT by Stimpson_J_Cat
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To: Jay777

can it get any worse???


92 posted on 07/29/2009 4:32:11 PM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd,you get no further than the crowd")
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To: Jay777
This modern day Dr. Mengle can go straight to hell.

THE KODIAK WING OF THE GOP...COMING SOON TO A PLACE NEAR YOU



MORE DESIGNS HERE

93 posted on 07/29/2009 4:52:41 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Keith in Iowa

Hell, I’m 58, and I’m positive ,according to zero’s ideology, I haven’t been socialized!


94 posted on 07/29/2009 4:53:34 PM PDT by Quickgun
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To: Darksheare

And I wonder if this nation will sit by idly, and watch it happen, just like Germany did.


95 posted on 07/29/2009 4:57:26 PM PDT by Quickgun
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To: ClancyJ

Hitler was a better person than Obama. Hitler stood up for his soldiers, and was, himself a soldier in WW1.Obama is just as evil ,and is a coward, to boot.


96 posted on 07/29/2009 5:05:21 PM PDT by Quickgun
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To: Jay777

So my puppy isn’t a canine until it’s been “socialized”?


97 posted on 07/29/2009 5:05:59 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: Jay777; Bokababe; lightman; Kolokotronis; FormerLib

What do you expect? Prior to his joining the obama administration, Holdren was at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government (KSG):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren

The KSG is a place that specializes in demonizing the Serbs, and basically says that it is OK to kill them.

I have always said that those who say that it is OK to kill Serbs will eventually say that it is OK to kill Americans (or at least those Americans who are deemed “unworthy of life”). I hope that everyone on this forum will admit I was right all along, and will WAKE UP to what is going on with our beloved country!!!!

The obama administration (I have started spelling “obama” in all lower case, just like “clinton”) has some very creepy characters within it and around it, who do not uphold or respect human life. Besides Holdren, there are Ezekiel Emanuel and David Blumenthal, who have key positions in obama’s “healthcare” operations. Both of these creeps not only believe in abortion, but also in making the lives of seniors and the disabled expendable just to save money. They also want to stop the application of all that wonderful American research (the best in the world!) aimed at developing new treatments and cures for human diseases.

We all should remember that Germany was a progressive, civilized, mainly Christian country in the early 20th century. Then the creeps who did not value human life came out of the woodwork (where they had been lurking for a very long time), and used a time of economic distress to take over. They came to power behind a charismatic orator, who promised “change” and “hope”. The result was the horror of Nazi Germany, the mass murder of those deemed “unworthy of life” (beginning with the disabled and the mentally ill), and the most destructive war in the history of humanity.

Our creeps have been lurking in the woodwork for a very long time. (I knew about the death- and “population control”-obsessed “bioethicists” at the Hastings Center and in academia a long time ago.) It’s time to squash them for good by stopping obama death-care this coming month of Congressional “recess”.

We should DEMAND the resignation of all the phony “bioethicists” and other creeps, and push for obama’s impeachment (which Congress of course won’t do). In 2010, we should elect Congress members (House and Senate) who support the traditional Judeo-Christian love for human life, and who will implement a new Contract with America based on that support.


98 posted on 07/29/2009 5:51:08 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Stimpson_J_Cat

“How have mentally diseased sickos like this been allowed into positions of power?”

By the mentally diseased sickos who voted for them.


99 posted on 07/29/2009 6:12:01 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Jay777

HUH??

This guy’s saying what he WISHES were true, not what he KNOWS is true. I can drop you off in gangland in any U.S. metro area at dusk on any day, and within ten minutes you’ll meet several people who, despite their post-adolescent physical age, are definitely NOT socialized.

WHATAMAROON!!


100 posted on 07/29/2009 6:21:43 PM PDT by HKMk23 (In the end, life contains only one tragedy: not to have been a saint.)
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