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Obama’s Science Czar: Babies Aren’t Human Until They’ve Been Socialized
Stop the ACLU ^ | 29 July 09 | Van Helsing

Posted on 07/29/2009 1:27:12 PM PDT by Jay777

A large part of the horror of abortion lies in the monstrous presumption of liberals declaring that human life begins not at conception, but whenever they say it does. Maybe that’s six weeks, maybe six months. Maybe it’s years. Obama’s Science Czar John Holdren (the guy who wanted to put a sterilizing agent in our drinking water) gives us an idea of how slippery this slope can get. From his book Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions, via Patterico’s Pontifications:

The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being. We knew that human fetuses aren’t human, according to liberal ideology. Now we learn that they remain nonhuman even after they are born, until such a time as priests of The State like Holdren deem them to have been sufficiently socialized.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoscience; holdren; johnholdren
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To: Stimpson_J_Cat

how many people has the obamanation appointed? that’s the answer. he is a counterfeit and makes sure he surrounds himself with counterfeit “experts”...


21 posted on 07/29/2009 1:37:50 PM PDT by bareford101 (the obamanation is a COUNTERFEIT with a COUNTERFEIT birth cert. & 39 different ss cards)
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To: Stimpson_J_Cat

Because many voting Americans are as shallow as a mud puddle and they liked the Hopey Change slogan and the idea of a *cool* President (guess they didn’t know he’d wear Mom Jeans).


22 posted on 07/29/2009 1:38:13 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: brytlea

She said she had always understood Roe v. Wade to be for keeping the number of people we don’t want to much of from growing and she was surprised funding for abortion was granting to Medicare.

So the question should have been: What group of people didn’t she want to much of?


23 posted on 07/29/2009 1:39:22 PM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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To: Jay777

No one here needs to be reminded that we’re being czarred and fettered.


24 posted on 07/29/2009 1:39:26 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: brytlea

That the reason for legalizing abortion was to keep in check populations that we dont want to many of.


25 posted on 07/29/2009 1:39:34 PM PDT by freespirited (Honk if you miss Licorice.)
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To: Jay777

I wouldn’t want any fetus to develop into a human anything like Holdren, but I also wouldn’t casually countenance abortion as he himself does.
THIS ISSUE is finally getting “it’s day”, like “every dog”.
People like this guy need to be directly challenged at every turn.
The natural common sense conservatism of most Americans
is finally showing its face, as it goes face to face, virtually every day, with these Ideologues of Death that Obama keeps providing, one after another.


26 posted on 07/29/2009 1:40:33 PM PDT by supremedoctrine (Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn.)
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To: Jay777

These guys are absolutely evil. The Left gets upset at Cheney-Haliburton, but finds this monstrous romancing of infanticide to be normal.

Small wonder that Leftists are in the same family tree as Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Pol Pot and Chairman Mao. The exact same respect for life as that bunch.


27 posted on 07/29/2009 1:41:14 PM PDT by Rugged Individual (Who is the world's smallest minority? I am. I am an individual.)
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To: Stimpson_J_Cat
"How have mentally diseased sickos like this been allowed into positions of power?"
8 posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:33:04 PM by Stimpson_J_Cat

They know the handshake and agree to promote the population control agenda at the meetings. Then they take them to Soros to bow down and swear obedience.


28 posted on 07/29/2009 1:41:25 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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“The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being,”

Unbelievable statement. More talking “crap” from the Obama Administration. A 2x4 couldn’t shake any sense loose from these people.


29 posted on 07/29/2009 1:41:32 PM PDT by Jenny217
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To: Jay777

These people are the same type of people who claimed that blacks were not full people, were more like cattle. Indeed, the party is the same party that fought against the Republicans who wanted abolition. They are the same people who fight to keep minority children in poor schools. So, why should it surprise anyone that they want to kill babies? They hate life...they are evil.


30 posted on 07/29/2009 1:42:03 PM PDT by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: Rugged Individual

They’re just following the ideology taught by their “father”.

John 8:44 (New International Version)
44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


31 posted on 07/29/2009 1:43:07 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Jay777

This administration is particularly hostile to unborn babies, the elderly sick, and taxpayers of all ages.


32 posted on 07/29/2009 1:45:12 PM PDT by Deo volente (Help Wanted: End of Life Counselors...apply at Department of Health and Human Services.)
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To: The_Reader_David
No, you've got it backwards.

Examination Day

33 posted on 07/29/2009 1:47:01 PM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: Jay777

Obama’s Science Czar: Babies Aren’t Human Until They’ve Been Socialized

So what went wrong in Obamas case?


34 posted on 07/29/2009 1:48:36 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: Stimpson_J_Cat

How have mentally diseased sickos like this been allowed into positions of power?

Because far too many citizens are weak whiney losers who have allowed themselves to become dependent on the Government for everything.
Once dependent its just like drugs.You do what the dealer says or you get cut off of what you need to survive..


35 posted on 07/29/2009 1:52:35 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: Jay777

A supreme irony with this is that several studies purport to show that the later psychological life of the child can be influenced by her (his, etc.) experiences in the womb. For example, she knows her mother’s and father’s voices from others. So even the “socializable” criterion ought to rule out late term abortions.


36 posted on 07/29/2009 1:52:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: Jay777

Does he really want to go there?


37 posted on 07/29/2009 1:53:39 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Jay777

The last time a country had people in power saying things like this we ended up in an extremely costly war over (surprise) ideology that saw words added to the English language like “Holocaust.”
When the state decides who, what, and when a person is a person, you set up the foundation for people like Josef Mengele and the rest of that odious ilk to operate freely.


38 posted on 07/29/2009 1:54:01 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: Darksheare

Nobody on the news wants to “out” this kind of talk. Holdren is one nut. The news is a million pairs of blind eyes, deaf ears, and mute mouths. Can’t have a lapdog nipping its master, can we?


39 posted on 07/29/2009 1:56:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: Jay777
I always knew that most leftist weren't really human.
40 posted on 07/29/2009 1:56:59 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (I eat Cheerios's with out a Prescription!)
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