Posted on 07/28/2009 9:20:47 PM PDT by JmyBryan
Could Deep Source Hydrocarbons Migrate Up Into Oil and Gas Reservoirs?
The oil and gas that fuels our homes and cars started out as living organisms that died, were compressed, and heated under heavy layers of sediments in the Earth's crust. Scientists have debated for years whether some of these hydrocarbons could also have been created deeper in the Earth and formed without organic matter. Now for the first time, scientists have found that ethane and heavier hydrocarbons can be synthesized under the pressure-temperature conditions of the upper mantle the layer of Earth under the crust and on top of the core. The research was conducted by scientists at the Carnegie Institution's Geophysical Laboratory, with colleagues from Russia and Sweden, and is published in the July 26, advanced on-line issue of Nature Geoscience.
(Excerpt) Read more at geology.com ...
Seems to occur on other planets, why mot here?
WTF are they doing for education these days? Complex hydrocarbons appear anywhere it LOOKS LIKE the conditions might be right.
And CHON isn't just an acronym, it's food.
/johnny
Frankly, given the way carbon chains can self assemble in the right conditions without extreme pressure, heat and extreme pressure in the upper mantle seem a pretty good candidate for enabling that kind of reaction.
The idea that oil and other hydrocarbons are made solely from compressed organics is ridiculous. I think even to suggest that compressed organics constitute the majority of hydrocarbon deposits on our planet is similarly ridiculous.
One only has to look at the abundance of hydrocarbons in our Solar System to conclude that either dinosaurs can breathe vacuum or the idea that “fossil fuels” are made out of actual fossils is bogus.
If hydrocarbons come from dead dinosaurs, then how come they’re plentiful throughout the universe, and found on Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus?
Follow the money... :)
One of Saturn’s moons, “Titan”, has oceans of methane. Does that mean there’s life there? There are whole nebulae made of alcohols, does this mean there’s life there too? I think there’s merit to this theory.
What if life came from the same place?
Didn’t you know that dinosaurs could fly? Remember, they’re related to birds, so ...
Coming to a theater near you, “Dinosaurs of Mars”.
When scientists discovered thermophiles?primitive microorganisms that live in deep seafloor vents and eat hydrocarbons (chemicals like gasoline)?experts assumed the mysterious bugs had little to tell us about ourselves or about the earth's core. Cornell University Professor Emeritus Gold, however, who for 20 years directed the Cornell Center for Radiophysics and Space Research, here proposes the striking theory that "a full functioning... biosphere, feeding on hydrocarbons, exists deep within the earth, and that a primordial source of hydrocarbons lies even deeper."
Most scientists think the oil we drill for comes from decomposed prehistoric plants. Gold believes it has been there since the earth's formation, that it supports its own ecosystem far underground and that life there preceded life on the earth's surface. The "deep hot biosphere" hypothesis would explain the thermophiles, the minerals and the oil Swedish drillers found in 1990 under rock where no one expected them. The hot goo and massed gas far under our feet would also explain some mysterious historical earthquakes (notably the New Madrid, Mo., shocker of 1811), and it would tell puzzled geologists why so many oil reserves just happen to sit underneath coal fields. As later chapters explain, if Gold is right, the planet's oil reserves are far larger than policymakers expect, and earthquake-prediction procedures require a shakeup; moreover, astronomers hoping for extraterrestrial contacts might want to stop seeking life on other planets and inquire about life in them.
It occurs on Titan.
Sunken, hydrocarbons are putatively the *final remains* of dinosaurs et al so to speak -- hence the "Graves" of "GGG" connection to you...
Cheers!
thanks, bfl
Sorry, complex hydrocarbons are “irreducibly complex”. They could not possibly have formed naturally. They are clearly the work of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Titanic Farts.
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