Posted on 07/28/2009 9:11:00 PM PDT by americanophile
Reporting from Washington -- It is the Internet rumor that has been discredited but will not die: President Obama is not a naturally born U.S. citizen and therefore constitutionally is not qualified to serve.
This week, months after the allegations first cropped up on the Web and talk radio, the White House and Hawaii officials addressed the rumor -- with the state's health director saying that she had reviewed the records in question and found that they verified Obama was born in Hawaii.
At the same time, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said, there probably was nothing that would quiet the disbelievers.
"If I had some DNA, it wouldn't assuage those that don't believe he was born here," Gibbs told reporters Monday. "But I have news for them and for all of us: The president was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, the 50th state of the greatest country on the face of the Earth. He's a citizen."
State officials had verified Obama's birth records when the question was raised before November's presidential election. Then Hawaii’s health director said in a statement this week: "I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago."
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Just one thing... the BIRTH CERTIFICATE. It's the BIRTH CERTIFICATE stupid!
LOL
Okay, look, just show the BC and make fools of us all who dare to question his legitimacy. I am a rank amateur in regards to all this but show the thing, get it over with if you (WH) are so smug.
have seen the original vital records maintained on file...
Why are there records, there should be only one long form birth certificate unless changes or late registration was needed?
I thought this story was “dead.” LOL!
Lou Dobbs - American Hero!
This is like arguing with your ex-wife.....
I miss my ex-wife. Guess I need more range time.
On September 8, 2004, Dan Rather cited “exclusive information, including documents” to justify major CBS Evening News and 60 Minutes stories alleging that George W. Bush shirked his duties when he was in the Texas Air National Guard in the 1960s and 1970s. Within a few hours of those documents being posted on CBS News’s Web site, however, typography experts voiced skepticism that the documents had actually originated with their alleged author and Bush’s former commanding officer, the late Lt. Colonel Jerry Killian. As the evidence mounted, Rather stubbornly clung to the idea that his story was bulletproof, and he derided critics as partisans and Internet rumormongers. When he “apologized” on September 20, Rather would not concede that the documents were forgeries, only that he and CBS could “no longer vouch for their authenticity.”
CBS Disregarded Experts, Challenged Laura Bush: ABC’s Brian Ross reported on the September 14 World News Tonight that “two experts hired by CBS News say the network ignored concerns they raised prior to the broadcast about the disputed National Guard records.” But over on CBS, reporter John Roberts wondered why President Bush wasn’t taking those memos seriously: “The President has yet to weigh in on new documents about his National Guard record made public last week by 60 Minutes.” Roberts also chastised First Lady Laura Bush for doubting CBS’s memos were authentic: “Laura Bush offered no evidence to back up her claim, and CBS News continues to stand by its reporting.”
Sticking By His Smear: On September 10, Dan Rather responded to charges the memos he cited as proving Bush’s dereliction were forged, telling his CBS Evening News audience that the memos were genuine and attacking any doubters as partisan rumor-mongers. “Today, on the Internet and elsewhere, some people, including many who are partisan political operatives, concentrated not on the key questions of the overall story, but on the documents that were part of the support of the story,” Rather castigated. But his lame defense ignored key challenges to the documents’ typography and content, and the doubts voiced by the widow and son of the supposed author, the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian. Instead, Rather chose to repeat his indictment of President Bush’s National Guard service. Rather arrogantly concluded: “If any definitive evidence to the contrary of our story is found, we will report it. So far there is none.” (CyberAlert, September 11, 2004)
Uhhh...the Hawaii State Director of Health is qualified to issue a legal opinion as to what constitutes a “Natural Born” citizen?
Even if he was born in Hawaii he’s not a Natural Born Citizen. (That messy little thing about his mother’s age and his father’s citizenship)
"You are seeing today an all out attempt to marshal the forces of the opposition, using not merely the communists, or their fellow travelers-the deluded liberals, the eggheads, and some of my good friends in both the Democratic and Republican Parties who can become heros over night in the eyes of the left-wing press if they will just join with the jackal pack"
Ever noticed the angle of this whole stupid game to Kerry’s denial of the discharge paperwork? I sat and watched Kerry....three years after the loss...on Larry King and he absolutely promised to bring out the DD214....YET never did. Even today....he still won’t show it.
When a guy could terminate an argument ever so easily....just by physical evidence...then the whole argument ends....yet he never does...then there is something attached to this whole discussion.
I won’t say for a minute that he was born elsewhere. He was born in Hawaii...no doubt. There are around three other scenarios which aren’t being discussed.
1. Another father listed than the Kenyan.
2. Stanley dumps the citizenship for both herself and the son upon going off to Indonesia.
3. Name change at least three times.
Number three is meaningless and no one would care. The first two...really mess up the legend and the qualifying to be president.
As if "the rest of America" was the picture of sanity!
/johnny
Habeas Veritas.
Produce the truth.
Obama IS without a doubt (in my opinion a citizen), his mother was a citizen, thus making him a citizen at birth. But that is not the point. The point is, the supreme court has never clarified what exactly “natural born citizen” as stated in the constitution actually means.
Does it simply mean you were born a citizen?
Does dual citizenship affect it?
Does renouncing your citizenship affect it?
Does living your whole life overseas affect it?
What if you were a anchor baby of two illegals?
Can you lose it? and if so how?
And what about things like embryo or sperm donation?
Does citizenship transfer with the eggs or sperm, or is the birth mothers citizenship status the only factor?
ect, ect, ect...
Forget freaking Obama for now, these are legitimate questions that I just want answers to, I don't expect the police to drag obama kicking and screaming from the white house. But I would like these answers clarified, so that in the future there are clearly defined rules for who can be President.
Face it, we live in a vastly different world than the forefathers could ever have imagined. Science and the ease of travel are blurring the lines of what it means to be a parent, a citizen, or even a human being.
So...move on because SHE says so?????
Maybe she believes O’s presidency is good for race relations and the end justifies the means.
If there was such a thing, Rule #1 in the US would be eligibility for Pres.
Do I think O would circumvent the rules for the greater good? NNNAAAAAAHHHH !!!!
In the end, O will have embarrased his race and set them back fity (spelling is correct) years
This might be a good place to post my list of really lousy predictions by some of the smartest people of the times.
I pray that the predictions by the Obmaniacs that the Birthers are nuts will soon join this lengthening list.
PREDICTIONS, FAILED/BOGUS
“Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons.”
Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science,
1949
“I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.”
Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943
“I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and
talked with the best people, and I can assure you that data
processing is a fad that won’t last out the year.” The editor
in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 1957
“But what ... is it good for?” Engineer at the Advanced
Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the
microchip.
“There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their
home.” Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital
Equipment Corp., 1977
“640K ought to be enough for anybody.” Bill Gates, 1981
“This ‘telephone’ has too many shortcomings to be seriously
considered as a means of communication. The device is
inherently of no value to us.” Western Union internal memo,
1876.
“The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value.
Who would pay for a message sent to nobody in particular?
David Sarnoff’s associates in response to his urgings for
investment in the radio in the 1920s.
“The concept is interesting and well formed, but in order to earn
better than a ‘C,’ the idea must be feasible.” A Yale
University management professor in response to Fred Smith’s paper
proposing reliable overnight delivery service. (Smith went on to
found Federal Express Corp.)
“Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?” H.M. Warner, Warner
Brothers, 1927.
“I’m just glad it’ll be Clark Gable who’s falling on his face
and not Gary Cooper.” Gary Cooper on his decision not to take
the leading role in “Gone With The Wind.”
“A cookie store is a bad idea. Besides, the market research
reports say America likes crispy cookies, not soft and chewy
cookies like you make.” Response to Debbi Fields’ idea of
starting Mrs. Fields’ Cookies.
“We don’t like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out.”
Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962.
“Heavier than air flying machines are impossible.” Lord
Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.
“If I had thought about it, I wouldn’t have done the experiment.
The literature was full of examples that said you can’t do this.”
Spencer Silver on the work that led to the unique adhesives
for 3 M “Post It” Notepads.
“So we went to Atari and said, ‘Hey, we’ve got this amazing
thing, even built with some of your parts, and what do you think
about funding us? Or we’ ll give it to you. We just want to do
it. Pay our salary, we’ll come work for you.’ And they said,
‘No.’ So then we went to Hewlett Packard, and they said, ‘Hey,
we don’t need you. You haven’t got through college yet.’”
Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari
and H P interested in his and Steve Wozniak’s personal computer.
[Ed note: To say their computer is not quite correct, it was
designed by Wozniak’s entirely.]
“Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action
and reaction and the need to have something better than a
vacuum against which to react. He seems to lack the basic
knowledge ladled out daily in high schools.” 1921 New York
Times editorial about Robert Goddard’s revolutionary rocket
work.
“You want to have consistent and uniform muscle development
across all of your muscles? It can’t be done. It’s just a fact
of life. You just have to accept inconsistent muscle development
as an unalterable condition of weight training.” Response to
Arthur Jones, who solved the “unsolveable” problem by inventing
Nautilus.
“Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find
oil? You’re crazy.” Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to
enlist to his project to drill for oil in 1859.
“Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high
plateau.” Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale
University, 1929.
“Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value.”
Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole
Superieure de Guerre.
“Everything that can be invented has been invented.” Charles
H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.
“Louis Pasteur’s theory of germs is ridiculous fiction”.
Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872 “The
abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the
intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon”. Sir John Eric
Ericksen, British surgeon, appointed Surgeon Extraordinary to
Queen Victoria 1873.
It Was Said!
“The atom bomb will never go off - and I speak as an expert in explosives.”
U.S. Admiral William Leahy in 1945.
“Television won’t matter in your lifetime or mine.” Radio Times editor Rex
Lambert, 1936.
“All saved from Titanic after collision.” New York Evening Sun, April 15 1912.
“Brain work will cause women to go bald.” Berlin professor, 1914.
“Very interesting, Whittle, my boy, but it will never work.” Professor of
Aeronautical Engineering at Cambridge, shown Frank Whittle’s plan for the jet
engine.
“Can’t act. Can’t sing. Slightly bald. Can dance a little.” A film company’s
verdict on Fred Astaire’s 1928 screen test.
“Forget it. No Civil War picture ever made a nickel.” MGM executive,
advising against investing in Gone With The Wind.
“You ought to go back to driving a truck.” - Concert manager, firing Elvis
Presley in 1954.
“You’d better learn secretarial skills or else get married.” - Modelling
agency, rejecting Marilyn Monroe in 1944.
“That rainbow song’s no good. Take it out.” - MGM memo after first showing
of The Wizard Of Oz.
“Radio has no future.” “X-rays are clearly a hoax.” “The aeroplane is
scientifically impossible.” - Royal Society president Lord Kelvin, 1897-9.
“I would not wish to be Prime Minister, dear.” - Margaret Thatcher in 1973.
“And for the tourist who really wants to get away from it all, safaris in
Vietnam.” Newsweek magazine, predicting popular holidays for the late 1960s. (
Keep Smiling)
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