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To: 1-Eagle

Ever noticed the angle of this whole stupid game to Kerry’s denial of the discharge paperwork? I sat and watched Kerry....three years after the loss...on Larry King and he absolutely promised to bring out the DD214....YET never did. Even today....he still won’t show it.

When a guy could terminate an argument ever so easily....just by physical evidence...then the whole argument ends....yet he never does...then there is something attached to this whole discussion.

I won’t say for a minute that he was born elsewhere. He was born in Hawaii...no doubt. There are around three other scenarios which aren’t being discussed.

1. Another father listed than the Kenyan.
2. Stanley dumps the citizenship for both herself and the son upon going off to Indonesia.
3. Name change at least three times.

Number three is meaningless and no one would care. The first two...really mess up the legend and the qualifying to be president.


12 posted on 07/28/2009 9:19:50 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice
Seriously, what exactly is so freaking hard about releasing the long form for all to see? there is no national security risks involved, no personal information that is not on the short form, nothing at all that any normal person would care to hide.

Obama IS without a doubt (in my opinion a citizen), his mother was a citizen, thus making him a citizen at birth. But that is not the point. The point is, the supreme court has never clarified what exactly “natural born citizen” as stated in the constitution actually means.

Does it simply mean you were born a citizen?
Does dual citizenship affect it?
Does renouncing your citizenship affect it?
Does living your whole life overseas affect it?
What if you were a anchor baby of two illegals?
Can you lose it? and if so how?
And what about things like embryo or sperm donation?
Does citizenship transfer with the eggs or sperm, or is the birth mothers citizenship status the only factor?
ect, ect, ect...

Forget freaking Obama for now, these are legitimate questions that I just want answers to, I don't expect the police to drag obama kicking and screaming from the white house. But I would like these answers clarified, so that in the future there are clearly defined rules for who can be President.

Face it, we live in a vastly different world than the forefathers could ever have imagined. Science and the ease of travel are blurring the lines of what it means to be a parent, a citizen, or even a human being.

18 posted on 07/28/2009 9:24:10 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: pepsionice
1. Another father listed than the Kenyan.

None other than Frank Marshall Davis.

Which resolves the constitutional eligibility question in his favour, but destroys the entire Obama mythos as the son of a poor Kenyan goatherder raised by destiny to lead America into a new Golden Age.

25 posted on 07/28/2009 9:34:23 PM PDT by Loyalist (If a tree falls in the forest, and the media is not there to cover it, does it make a headline?)
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To: pepsionice

If he had been born in Hawaii then he would show his birth certificate.

The other problem is Frank Davis was more then likely his father.

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/09/obamas-real-father-connecting-dots.html


30 posted on 07/28/2009 9:49:20 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: pepsionice
He was born in Hawaii...no doubt.

And you know this because you have a copy of Obama's original long form birth certificate? GREAT! Well, let's see it. We're on the edge of our seats!

43 posted on 07/28/2009 10:11:55 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: pepsionice

I’ll add a few:

4. Race listed as “white” “arab” “mixed” or some other formulation that is not politically useful.

5. Religion listed as Islam.


66 posted on 07/29/2009 7:45:20 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: pepsionice
2. Stanley dumps the citizenship for both herself and the son upon going off to Indonesia.

Except that if Obama was born here then only he can give up his citizenship. And only as an adult.

88 posted on 07/29/2009 8:20:48 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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