Posted on 07/28/2009 7:34:23 PM PDT by pissant
Images of two 1961 Hawaii birth certificates similar to the one President Obama purportedly has on file have now been unveiled.
The Honolulu Advertiser published photostats of the original long-form birth certificates of twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke at Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital Aug. 5, 1961, one day after Obama was supposedly born at the same facility.
The Nordykes' certificates include information missing from the short-form document for Obama published online, including the name of the hospital, the name of the attending physician, name and address of the parents, the race of the parents and the race of the baby.
As WND reported yesterday, Hawaii's director of health responded to the growing controversy over the White House's refusal to release Obama's original long-form birth certificate by issuing a statement about the document in apparent contravention of Hawaiian law.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
So that is what a real Hawaiian certificate of live birth looks like.
Uh....I’m dense. I still don’t get what you are trying to say.
“The new certificate of birth shall show the true or probable foreign country of birth, and that the certificate is not evidence of United States citizenship for the child for whom it is issued or for the adoptive parents. [L 1979, c 203, §3; am L 1990, c 338, §3]”
Wow! You may be on to something here. It makes perfect sense. Could this be why Obama does not have a normal long form BC?
The plot thickens.
Also possible...don’t you usually fill out a form when your baby is born, providing the name you chose? and give it to the nurse, who then files it, the Lord knows where...and maybe 0bama’s nurse delayed a day in sending the completed paperwork to the registrar.
My own birth certificate was not filed for about a month after I was born. (Long story, not really interesting.)
Look at the pictures of the two types of live birth certificates for Hawaii. Read post #68. Then look at the pictures again. Why is Obomas different? Why so little information?
You guys are late to the party most of this has been gone over in minute detail. The short Form may or may not be from a foreign birth but it says island-oahu, county Honolulu on it for location not a foreign country.
Second the smear through is in fact the date the copy was made as shown at factcheck jun 6 2007. Its a short form or abstract copy of the original (or a forgery) No I do not believe everything factcheck says and yes they are biased.
as for the 1961 vs 61 common sense says they went to four digits around 2000 otherwise 01 would be 1901 0r 2001. The extra digit 0 is because of population growth and more births per year. Older forms have the older numbers and newer copies of older BCs have been updated
the health department statement indicates Obama was born in Hawaii, but does not say if their is an amendment to the original form and it does not give hospital or doctor leaving the possibility of home birth or fraudulent certification.
I still want someone to explain to me how the little Obamination could have gotten into the US or Canada from Kenya without a BC or being on his mother’s passport? In the trunk of a car?nn OK one more extraordinary circumstance to be explained away.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Isn’t FactCheck so cute ?
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The Last Word? We Wish.
July 28, 2009
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We at FactCheck.org are grateful to the Obama birth certificate conspiracy theorists for hundreds of thousands of page views to our “Born in the U.S.A.” article from last November, and to our other items debunking some of their more outrageously false claims.
We’re less grateful for their thousands of sometimes abusive e-mails claiming that we’re perpetuating a dangerous falsehood, among the more printable comments. Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii Department of Health, is also fed up.
She has now released her second statement (the first was made last November) saying that state records show Obama was indeed born in the U.S.A. This one states unequivocally that he is “a natural-born American citizen,” and will everyone please just leave it alone now? (We confess we are paraphrasing that second part.)
Do we expect this official statement from the keeper of Hawaiian birth records to quiet all the rumors, speculation and false claims? Of course not. We weren’t founded yesterday. In fact, doubters, we’ll get you started with a suggestion on how to ignore this latest bit of evidence.
Fukino is willing to swear that Barrack Hussein Obama is a natural-born citizen. But that’s probably because (warning: sarcasm alert), by an amazing coincidence, someone named Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii, while Barack (with one “r” and not two) Hussein Obama was being born in Kenya, or on the moon, or somewhere.
Does that sound adequately convincing without actually involving any evidence? Okay, then, go to town!
Update: The state of Hawaii has now posted the statement on their Web site — and in the 24 hours since they sent it to reporters, they’ve corrected the spelling error. Another excellent theory down the tubes!
Posted by Jess Henig on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 1:37 pm
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/07/the-last-word-we-wish/
On one of the earlier threads today there was a discussion on why Obama’s number was after and why he had a zero in front of his number. The top two are the twins’ number botton is BOs.
10637
10638
010641
Are we misreading it? Could the zero in front of BO’s actually be a the letter “O”. (For Original)? Then altered once be listed as A10641 or B10641 as court ordered changes took place. Do we know ANYONE In HI that know how the notation is arrived at or changed for legal purposes?
See post #68, letter (G)......
(G) True or probable country of birth.
The true or probable country of birth shall be known as the place of birth, and the date of birth shall be determined by approximation.
The birth certificates don't get numbers until they are processed by the Health Department. Obama's application arrived on Tuesday, the 8th. The girls' applications arrived on Friday, the 11th. They must have stamped the files with their arrival dates and left them sitting in a pile until Friday. Come Friday, they processed the whole batch, assigning them numbers out of arrival sequence. Then they sent the list out to the newspapers in time for publication on Sunday and Monday.
I thought that had been gone over a dozen times before.
The two are Certificates and the one is a Certification, and a false one according to one Freeper. We need one that looks like the first two and so far he’s refusing to produce one. What am I missing?
good stuff
151-61-10638
151-61-10639
151-61-10640
151-61-10641
Wonder about 151-61-10639 and 151-61-10640 ??
But instead of getting a hot Kathleen Turner on the beach we get 0bummer in the White House!...LOL
what is show on Obama’s Certification of Live Birth (as shown of factcheck) for Island and County of birth? Look at the document.
Check the “Date Registered” on the 2 real BCs and Obama’s certification. The BCs show a registered date 3 days after BO’s cert.
FYI for the numbers. Twins born around same time. their number was
l51-61-10637. O’s document 151-1961-10641.
Will you please post a source for this?
Extremely interesting. It would explain so much.
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