Barack's little "African" problem. (vanity)

Me | 7-27-2009 | Danae

[Danae]

Ok here is a theory.

To preface what follows, I was born in Hawaii in 1969. I have both my long form BC and my COLB from that state.

My COLB was printed for me at my mothers request in a letter that was received (and confirmed by computer records by the Vital Stats office in the Hawaiian Dept of Health in Honolulu) and my COLB that I received should have had the date of Mar.6 2000. It states Mar. 6 2007 (!).

Stick with me through what follows.

Lets just say that in 2007 when Barry was really getting into running for President that he was facing some questions from the black community, which was indeed the case. The question in the black community was this: Is he black enough? Barry is 50% white, 44% Arab and 6% Black from the breakdown that I have repeatedly seen. So the black community isn’t sure they can support this guy because he is half white, and we have all heard the condescension that Black people have given to mulatto children. Certainly in my lifetime I can remember some rather racist black kids riding the mulatto kids I knew. Barry is most definitely Mulatto.

Ok so he has a problem with convincing the Black community to support him, and he NEEDS their support, and that of ACORN, the two go hand in hand.

So, Barry goes back to Hawaii on vacation, visits grandma. Grandma is VERY well connected in Honolulu. You don’t get to the position of VP of Hawaii’s largest bank and NOT be connected. In Hawaii connections are everything. With connections, you can do just about anything, a favor is a favor, and Grandma likely had more than just a few to pull in. Thats just how the islands work. I am not going to try and explain it more than that, it would take too long. But I have connected family on Kauai to this day, so let’s just stipulate that I know what I am talking about.

Back to the story. Barry needs to solidly convince a lot of Black people that he has the creds to run from the Black community, to counter his detractors on the whole Black enough issue.

A COLB stating African would do that pretty convincingly. Grandma pulls a few strings and gets Barry a COLB that states African, and is actually a real document from the State of Hawaii because it indeed came from there, but under some false circumstances. Mainly that his race was African, when clearly it wasn’t, he had a White Mother. If anything, original COLB would have said Negro or Black. That might not be enough to counter the white half of his genetic make up in the Black Community, but stating “AFRICAN” WOULD. But I don’t think hid long form says Negro or Black, I think it classifies him as Caucasian.

So it is a “legit” document that was printed under false circumstances. I am theorizing that it was printed by someone in the Vital Statistics Office, but as my OWN COLB shows, by the messed up date, that anyone who knew how to do it could have printed one up with the information of choice, then put the seal on it folded it, and sent it on its way. The Date stamp on the Fact Check Document has the date stamp above Onaka’s name, which could only have been printed in the snail mail order room, like mine is. It is ALSO a separate room. There are three printing Machines in that office which could have been used, the front desk, which has a date stamper to the Side of Onaka’s stamp (also printed by the machines at the same time as the rest of the Document is printed), and the internet order area, which also has the stamp to the side, and the oldest machine, which has the date ABOVE Onaka’s stamp. Now I know this because while I was confirming the order date of my own COLB I did a little digging, and the clerk was very informative and helpful. Obama got a COLB that was printed in the Mail Order’s separate room. If it was ordered at the front desk, then it would have been printed there, not in the snail mail room, unless someone was going to change some of the info on it and wanted to conceal that...

Now is the date on the back of the fact check document on or about the same as one of his vacations to the Islands? I was told that it can take up to a month to process orders, but I think he likely got it handed to him on or about the same time he or Grandma ordered it. In reality that doesn’t matter, Grandma could have pulled strings at any time and had it mailed to him.

Now, because the COLB that Barry has is legit looking, all he has to do is make sure his Long Form Birth Certificate NEVER sees the light of day, and that his school records and financial aid applications never see the light of day either. Why? Because his Long form would say that he is Caucasian, and his school records/financial aid, under his Barry Soetoro name show him to be a foreigner from Indonesia. I could go into the whole Immigration status thing, which I do think has some validity to it, and certainly has not been looked at by a Court AS OF YET, so I will leave that alone for now, it could well be he is a citizen, but because of dual citizenship issues, he is not a Natural Born citizen.

But I digress.

OK so he now has his Black enough Street creds, and a “legit” COLB, he should be in the clear right? Only if you assume that the COLB he has was gotten in 2007 was 100% legit, and I have proof that a COLB can have incorrect information in it - Because MINE DOES.

Some time ago, I remember reading that Barry’s lawyer that had seen the document said that he was indeed born in Hawaii, but that his records contained information that would be “embarrassing”. Is Caucasian embarrassing enough? Is lying to the Black Community enough? Is gaining their support with a lie embarrassing enough? Do you think it possible that once this information became public, with the release of a Long Form BC stating he was Caucasian, that the black community would become apathetic to him in part or in whole?

Add to this, Barry describes his grandmother as the rock of his family, as well as describing her as “afraid of Black men”, do you think that she, with her connections, her strength of charachter, and a wayward 17 year old daughter having shown some poor decision making in the recent past from Grandma’s perspective, could have required that her daughter state the race of her child as accurately being predominately white, which he is? I do indeed think so.

Folks, I think that Barry may well have been born in Hawaii, solid evidence of some other place being missing, that he was registered with the office of Vital Statistics as being Caucasian. He states in his book that he HAD all his birth records at one time, why would he need a new COLB in 2007 if that’s the case? Because he needed one that would gain him the support of the Black Community, and indeed they got a real live “African” even better!!

So if this theory is true, do you think that come 2011 that the black community is going to be as fired up about their lying Mulatto pretending to “African” status? Ummm hummmm.

Do you think they would have supported him as strongly as they did in 2008 as a mostly white guy?? As the messiah? As the ONE? I don’t think so. I could be wrong on that... But I don’t think so. Perceptions matter sometimes, and there is a world of difference in perceiving Barry as African and White. All the difference in the world to the Black Community, enough to win the Presidency.

Remember, he only won by a few percentage points. His electoral numbers came from fewer total states that had higher numbers of Blacks in the population.

- Flame retardant garment status = ON.

Tear the theory apart please!

[Danae]

In post 135.

In HIS defense, he had asked me to send him new copies done at a different contrast which I forgot to do, totally forgot to do it. He never sent a reminder or anything, just lept to the conclusion he wanted to reach. I have since sent him several other scanned copies I did tonight and sent.

In my opinion, he owes me a HUGE apology. The document is real, it from the state of Hawaii and was sent to me in Mar of 2000.

So he popps off with a bunch of mumbo jumbo about how its fake and missing spaces... My COLB is what 6 to 7 years OLDER than Obama’s copy of his.... I mean DAMN, he expects paper and printing qualities to match? He accuses me of placing fake tears and stains in it?? WTH?

[Kevmo]

I think I’ve seen enough. If Polarik owes you an apology, then I will quite surprised. I think you tried to pull some kind of scam.

Polarik, even if we’re wrong, this makes great material for your book. You lucky dog.

[Vendome]

Well the corner pic of your COLB has all the EXIF. While, your Photobucket pic has all the attributes removed.

Why?

[Danae]

I have not nor would I try to pass off a forgery. Why would I?

What is an EXIF? Is that one of the numbers on the COLB?

[Vendome]

I understand you redacted and I would as well. May I have a higher res at 2400, redacted of course?

[MHGinTN]

Neither does Peggy Noonan's name show in FR spellchecker. Jim Thompson doesn't like her or him. ;*)

[Danae]

Wrong.

I have misrepresented nothing. Nor have I lied. I am almost at the point of calling the State back and asking the lady to send me a letter stating when my COLB was ordered and issued. You guys are insane.

[Vendome]

What month was your request and when did you receive the doc.

[Kevmo]

It’s the simple stuff that says the most. Keep up the good work.

[Danae]

Has to be a property of photobucket, I have no idea, what is an EXIF, I have no idea what you are talking about?

[shibumi]

"Do you think they would have supported him as strongly as they did in 2008 as a mostly white guy?? "

But all the girlies say he's pretty fly (for a white guy.)

(I wonder if he's got a "31" tattooed somewhere?)

[Vendome]

Can you see why we would question your COLB?

[Danae]

It was requested in Feb of 2000 by my mom, I could not request it myself, I could not prove who I was. I received it in the middle of March from her. Third week maybe, something like that. Could have been in the second week. It was all by Snail Mail. Not over-nighted.

[thecodont]

"OHSM 1.1 (Rev. 11/01) LASER"

From my experience, I'd say that government forms generally carry a revision and date number. I do not know if "11/01" refers to "November 2001" and I wonder, if that is so, why it would be appearing on a document issued in March 2000. It seems far more likely to me that it would read "11/99" (that is, November 1999) instead.

[Danae]

My computer totally locked up the last time I tried to get it to go to 2400 earlier tonight. I was pissed off at the time so I went back to the 600 that Polarik had originally requested. I can try again.

I will say this, if Polarik comes back again and says my document is fake, I will KNOW he is a liar. Mostly because I KNOW this is a legit document. I am at the point of calling the lady back that I spoke to earlier and asking her to send me a letter saying that my mom had my COLB ordered in 2000 and that NO OTHER COLB’s have ever been requested for me by anyone else at any other time. Which is true as well.

[Fred Nerks]

...Arabs are Caucasian.

I've always had my reservations about that:

...The Omani Arabs posed the most direct challenge to Portuguese influence in East Africa and besieged Portuguese fortresses, openly attacked naval vessels and expelled the remaining Portuguese from the Kenyan and Tanzanian coasts by 1730. By this time the Portuguese Empire had already lost its interest on the spice trade sea route because of the decreasing profitability of that business. Portuguese-ruled territories, ports and settlements remained active to the south, in Mozambique, until 1975.

Omani Arab colonization of the Kenyan and Tanzanian coasts brought the once independent city-states under closer foreign scrutiny and domination than was experienced during the Portuguese period. Like their predecessors, the Omani Arabs were primarily able only to control the coastal areas, not the interior. However, the creation of clove plantations, intensification of the slave trade and relocation of the Omani capital to Zanzibar in 1839 by Seyyid Said had the effect of consolidating the Omani power in the region.

IT'S WIKI BUT...

Omani Arab

Photographed in Zanzibar, 1890

Perhaps by choosing to portray Obama Snr as 'father' another can of worms was opened...for later?

[Kevmo]

So, regardless of how this goes down, your perspective will be valuable.

[Danae]

No. I can’t. Honestly. I know this is a legit document. I have absolutely zero reason to lie about it. I offered the info to Polarik the information in the hope that it would HELP him. Not for any other reason. I can not explain WHY my COLB has an incorrect date on it. Neither could the person I spoke to. I was not in the room when they printed it. Did I notice it when I got it yea, I did, but I didn’t think anything of it. I assumed it was an expiration or something like that. I didn’t really even give it a second thought until it came up as an issue in the election with Obama’s COLB.

You tell me, what would be the point of me lying? Hua? Come on, you are so sure of it, what the hell is my motive to lie?

WHY would I say that a document that I (if I got the corroboration from Hawaii as to when it was ordered which I am willing to try and do) had ordered in 2000 was anything BUT that? It is what it is and has an incorrect date on it.

[Danae]

I do not know. I remember some discussion of document revision dates, I think it might be on the Obamafile, I will go look there as well.

[Vendome]

I have not accused you of passing off a fraud?

I just have questions and the information I have been given is troubling.

You have to admit it is weird.

The rev date is November 01, 2001.

The pic you took has all the info, down to EXIF

The pic's of your COLB, previously posted, have all the attributes removed.

I don't see how that happens. Photobucket doesn't strip the attributes. I have several pics from there and just checked in libraries. Many still have the attributes.

Some do not but, I think the author or copy owner stripped the attributes.