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Raising a Dangerously Obese Child Is a Shame — But Is It a Crime?
Pajamas Media ^ | July 27 | Michele Catalano

Posted on 07/27/2009 9:00:00 AM PDT by AJKauf

In aisle six there’s a man wheeling a grocery cart filled with prepackaged and ready-to-make food: TV dinners, frozen breakfasts, macaroni and cheese, and similar items. The cart is also overflowing with sugary cereals and a variety of soda. The man weighs about 400 pounds. With him is his son. The boy is about 12-years-old and weighs close to 200 pounds. He’s pointing to things he wants — Pop-Tarts, Oreos, Rice Krispies Treats — and the father is throwing everything the kid asks for into the cart.

“That’s child abuse,” I think to myself. “That man is endangering the welfare of his child. He should be arrested.”

Of course, I was speaking hyperbolically. You can’t really arrest someone for what they choose to feed their child, right?

Now it seems as if my hyperbole wasn’t so outlandish after all. A South Carolina woman was arrested for criminal child neglect because her 14-year-old son, Alexander Draper, weighs 555 pounds.

When the boy’s mother, Jerri Gray, was asked for an explanation as to how her son got so dangerously obese, she said, “Well, a lot of times it had to do with lifestyle. A lot of times I had to work full time second shift or full time, third shift. And I wasn’t home a lot.” She explained that she would often purchase fast food for Alexander because she didn’t have time to cook due to work.

It’s easy to call the mother out on this. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at pajamasmedia.com ...


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KEYWORDS: childhoodpolice; foodpolice; parenting
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To: Notary Sojac
Another chapter in the Free Republic catechism, according to which: Fat people = disgusting and pathetic Smokers = noble and persecuted

It's easy to see that you are a rabid anti-smoker. To start with no one on FR that I know thinks, or says, that smokers are noble and persecuted. Very few of them say fat people are disgusting and pathetic. You are comparing different things here. The article isn't about fat people, it is about people who allow their children to become overweight, not just a little, but a lot. Secondly, most people, on FR, believe that people can feed their children whatever and how much they want, they may not like it but they don't think people should be arrested for it. Smokers, OTH, are not talking about their children being allowed to smoke, they are talking about themselves as consenting adults being able to smoke. Either ban smoking or stop taxing it out of existence.

You are trying to prop up your anti-smoking bias with an apples oranges comparison, nice effort but it just doesn't fly, at least not with me, a non smoking fat person.

21 posted on 07/27/2009 9:35:37 AM PDT by calex59 (I, me, myself, am actually Jim Thompson)
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To: pandoraou812
My parents worked & I learned to cook at a very young age. We ate healthier back then too. I think the way food is made now has much to do with a child's weight. The things they add to food IMO are the reason. My daughter who is 9 yrs old is tall & thin. She hates meat & drives my husband nuts. I just keep hard boiled eggs or veggie burgers in the house for the nights when it is is going to be a problem. Her doctor told us not to fuss over it. Or we would be facing an eating disorder. Sassy never gets soda unless she is sick or at a party. We keep fresh veggies & fruit for snacks. I hate junk food & don't let her near it.

I have to disagree with you on this one. The reason our children are growing up fatter is that they don't do any physical exercise. The ones who are fat, for the most part, sit at home on the computer or playing Wii or Xbox or whatever. When they are not doing that they are texting their friends for hours on end.

If people want their children to get out and exercise they need to take the frickin' toys away from them and make them do what we did when I was a child: Go outside and actually play, when we were teenagers we didn't "play" in the strictest sense but we were always on the move and most of us didn't own cars and couldn't borrow the parent's vehicles either.

We ate far more calories than the kids today do and we were not fat except for a few exceptions. Physical work is the answer to obesity, whether it is having fun or actually working, exercise will thin you down quicker than any diet.

22 posted on 07/27/2009 9:41:52 AM PDT by calex59 (I, me, myself, am actually Jim Thompson)
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To: AJKauf

Pitiful for sure that a child should weigh so much. However, in England, social workers may remove obese children from their parents.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/parents-of-obese-children-charged-with-abuse-in-britain/


23 posted on 07/27/2009 9:43:51 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: AJKauf

This is, indeed, a very difficult call. Do you call in “Child Protective Services” and label a 555 lb kid a victim of abuse by the parents? How is this different from any other abuse?

Frankly, I believe that when a kid gets to this point it IS neglect. However, gummit should NOT intervene. Unless cigar burns or bruises appear, the only thing anyone should do is mind their own business.


24 posted on 07/27/2009 9:47:07 AM PDT by albie
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To: ReneeLynn

Your point is good. It is a slippery slope that one starts traveling when government starts making judgments about parenting skills.


25 posted on 07/27/2009 9:48:25 AM PDT by madinmadtown (Nuclear...better to mispronounce it, than not understand it.)
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To: mockingbyrd

I don’t care if he was eating fast food for a couple meals a day, if just regular portions, there would be no way the weight could get so high. I am not sure if it should be classified as a crime, but it DOES seem to be neglect.


26 posted on 07/27/2009 9:50:12 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: AJKauf

Dude. The WORST MOTHER IN THE WORLD can’t make a kid that fat without some genetic or physical problem. You could raise a kid in that Witch’s house from Hansel and Gretel and, unless they have something wrong with them— they’re not going to get this fat. The Mother in this case may be negligent or not— but her negligence alone could not lead to a kid being 555 pounds.


27 posted on 07/27/2009 9:51:09 AM PDT by exist
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To: pandoraou812
...I just keep hard boiled eggs or veggie burgers in the house for the nights when it is is going to be a problem. Her doctor told us not to fuss over it. Or we would be facing an eating disorder. Sassy never gets soda unless she is sick or at a party. We keep fresh veggies & fruit for snacks. I hate junk food & don't let her near it...

When I first started working from home about 5 years ago, one of my coworkers was lamenting the move because she said there would be more temptation to eat junk food at home than at work. She was also concerned about the temptation to having the refrigerator there at her beck and call.

I told her there was a simple solution to that problem. No more junk food in the house. She said, "you don't understand, I have kids." Well, I do understand and if you want healthy kids, keep the junk food out of the house.

I noticed that over those 5 years, she has gained weight and I have lost weight. I also have an elliptical trainer in my house and I rarely watch a DVD on it unless I'm working out on it.

...One thing I have have noticed through the last few years is that girls don't know how to cook. Most of my 3 son's girls friends have no intention of ever cooking. One can't make anything that isn't frozen & goes in the microwave...

My grandmother didn't want to teach me how to cook so I had to teach myself right after I got married.

28 posted on 07/27/2009 9:51:45 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (http://koreanforniancooking.blogspot.com/)
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To: calex59
You can disagree but I still believe the additives that are in food now have a lot to do with weight gain. We didn't have boxed mac & cheese. I never had that at home. My mother didn't allow food like that unless she made it herself. All this pre made food has more additives then food did when I was a child.

I already said children today are in the house far too much. I don't agree with it. I limit TV, video games & computer time. My child is in our pool all summer long, riding her bike, climbing trees & playing. Too many parents let their children run them. I see it all the time. Bratty kids who get their own way because the parents won't stand up to them.

29 posted on 07/27/2009 9:54:15 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (elected officials should be required to pass drug, alcohol & dementia testing)
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To: AJKauf

She worked 3 jobs just to pay for the food!


30 posted on 07/27/2009 9:54:25 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: calex59

Of course part of the problem is safety fears. Children generally are not allowed to roam around outside like I did at age six.

When I was a child I was a picky eater but gobbled cookies, candy, ice cream, etc. and I was always too skinny. But I was outside playing all the time. We would even walk to the HS football field to play one on one tackle football on the 100 yard field (Obviously the plays consisted of going left, going right, feint left and go right and other simplicities as we picked up the ball and tried to get past the one defender).

Watching a movie like THE FIGHTING SULLIVANS today is sad for an extra reason. Boys today often aren’t allowed to explore and freely play like the Sullivans.


31 posted on 07/27/2009 9:55:25 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: AJKauf

No, it’s not a crime.

As Americans we have become heavier by the year. Not just because we have access to every kind of fattening food imaginable. Not just because we eat out as often and not. Not just because the Whopper and the Big Mac are half again the size they were in the 1960s. Not just because “do you want fries with that?” and “supersize?” are answered in the positive more often than not. Not just because in the mid-afternoon a candy bar is a great pick-me-up. Etc.

We eat because we can. Because it’s there. I’m as guilty as anyone. Put on fifty pounds driving between two towns one year, one day a week, because I’d stop at the Dairy Queen and have a Pecan Praline Parfait on my drive back home. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. The thought has me pavlovianing.

Mom could pack in the broccoli and carrots, but that doesn’t mean that for this kid he’d 1- eat them and 2- not gain weight anyway for eating too much.

As my Mom so nicely puts it: Portion Control. Know how big your stomach REALLY is . . . the size of your FIST! Let me hear it from those who ONLY eat “the size of their fist” at all meals?

[crickets?]

We’re all guilty of some kind of “too much of a good thing.” It could be sitting in front of the computer. It could be sitting in front of the television. It could be going out every weekend to fish or hunt or to auto races or . . . . We’re guilty for ourselves and our familes . . . UP TO A POINT.

This kid is hungry. His stomach has been trained not to feel ‘happy-full’ until he’s eaten a large quantity of food. And it could be healthy food, but eating an entire roasted chicken, a pound of cooked greens, and a plate of mashed potatoes isn’t good for anyone, either!

BACK when he was first in school, did anyone notice his eating habits? Is he stuffing his face with food because he feels empty from having no father in the picture (supposition), a mother who is off working “all the time,” perhaps no close relatives or friends, perhaps been told to “stay indoors when I’m not home?” What kind of play activity is the boy involved in?

WE have allowed Phys Ed to be removed from the school curriculum and we end up with FATTY kids (and adults). Duh??

Seems to me the Schools, the Teachers, the Social Service Agency, AND the Mom and Son need some therapy and guidance. The boy’s problem didn’t just start. It seems to me that Social Services is making a big deal out of it because THEY missed the boat and dropped the ball (mixing metaphors) and don’t want anyone to look in their direction.

YMMV.


32 posted on 07/27/2009 9:56:12 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: madinmadtown

Yes. Former fat child here and it’s not a matter of buying junk food. If I was going to overeat I would find things to overeat. Had nothing to do with my mother.

The gov’t should get out of our houses, refrigerators and lives. These extreme cases are not the rule, they’re the exception and they’re being used to put over the idea of gov’t intervention by shaming parents if their child is fat.


33 posted on 07/27/2009 9:56:38 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it*s the new black.)
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To: AJKauf

I have two teenaged nieces that are probably about 250 each and they’re both a bit shorter than average. Both parents are obese and they tend to eat a lot of comfort food and shun any exercise involving cardio. It’s a shame because they’re all really nice people, but simply will not listen to anyone who tries to encourage them to eat healthier and exercise more.

I have a 3-seater Sea Doo and was on it with the mother one time. The elder child tried to climb on the back for a ride and nearly sank us. The entire rear half of the PWC sank like we had a hull breach. It was scary because the weight limit on those should be enough to accommodate three adults, but it was obvious that we would have been way over the limit. And I’m not a big guy. Never been over 200 pounds in my life.

Not judging, just concerned and frustrated about a problem that’s growing more common with each passing year.


34 posted on 07/27/2009 10:03:10 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: Tamar1973
I don't understand the junk food crave. I don't like the taste of it myself. If I want cake I make it. My oldest daughter didn't want to learn to cook when she was young & taught herself when she got married. She is a great cook now. I like to cook so that helps. Keeping junk food out of the house is the answer IMO. Looking at what is in the food you buy helps too.

We swim here every day we can. I need one of those trainers. I tend to get lazy in the winter.

35 posted on 07/27/2009 10:07:29 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (elected officials should be required to pass drug, alcohol & dementia testing)
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To: pandoraou812
We swim here every day we can. I need one of those trainers. I tend to get lazy in the winter.

That's when having the elliptical trainer in the living room can help. No TV without moving your but for at least 1/2 hour (I usually do an hour at a time).

36 posted on 07/27/2009 10:10:56 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (http://koreanforniancooking.blogspot.com/)
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To: ReneeLynn

Spot on.


37 posted on 07/27/2009 10:11:13 AM PDT by madinmadtown (Nuclear...better to mispronounce it, than not understand it.)
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To: Tamar1973
I will look into getting one. After all the darn surgeries I've had in the past 2 yrs I have been avoiding doing too much. Now that I am finally healed it is time to exercise more for sure. Good idea about having one in the living room. I would use it there. In my bedroom it would fall the way of becoming a place to hang clothes on like most of my friend's exercise equipment has. I do have a dry sauna that I use after my walking which is nice.
38 posted on 07/27/2009 10:18:30 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (elected officials should be required to pass drug, alcohol & dementia testing)
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To: pandoraou812

From what I’ve read before, pre-made processed foods are easier to digest. Fewer calories are burned in the digestive process and more calories are stored by the body. Add to that all the massive quantities of sugars in most pre-made foods topped off with a sedentary lifestyle, and you’re talking fat-ass city.


39 posted on 07/27/2009 10:30:10 AM PDT by EricT. ("Mankind, when left to themselves, are unfit for their own government." -George Washington)
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To: AJKauf

No, but it’s a crime to raise them as Democrats!!


40 posted on 07/27/2009 10:34:14 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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