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1 posted on 07/24/2009 5:39:30 PM PDT by Chickensoup
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I guess my bottom line question is; does the government really destroy the information?


2 posted on 07/24/2009 5:41:16 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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Maine


3 posted on 07/24/2009 5:41:41 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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Doesn’t your Maine Driver’s License require a physical address, not a PO Box?


4 posted on 07/24/2009 5:42:48 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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In Florida it’s the residency requirement ... PO Boxes are not an in State address.


7 posted on 07/24/2009 5:43:58 PM PDT by Tarpon (You relinquish your responsibilities, you surrender your rights.)
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Supposedly this information is destroyed by the state in 24 or 48 hours.

Is it "this information" or "this entry in a particular database" that gets destroyed?

If they pass the information on to some other organization in the "verification" process, you are now on the (assumed!) list of known gun owners and can be (assumed) paired with ACORN's GPS list of all residences.

/ tinfoil hat

10 posted on 07/24/2009 5:45:07 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Neda Agha-Soltan - murdered by illegitimate government)
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Probably to ensure you are really a state resident.


11 posted on 07/24/2009 5:45:10 PM PDT by Sloth (The Second Amendment is the ultimate "term limit.")
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The cops in Oklahoma had a database full of information on owners of a particular type of firearm when they were conducting an investigation into a homicide committed with that caliber firearm. They called all owners of that particular caliber firearm in to allow them to inspect those pistols. Funny, the information was supposed to be confidential. Draw your own conclusions.


13 posted on 07/24/2009 5:45:43 PM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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You have to be a resident of Maine to buy a gun there. Having a post office box doesn’t prove that. There aren’t any guarantees that the record is destroyed. I’m sure they take at least daily backups of the database. They put that on a tape and send it somewhere. Usually you would keep at least 6 months worth of backups. So, even if some process runs to remove your record from the current database after 72 hours your record may exist on a backup.


17 posted on 07/24/2009 5:46:45 PM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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One gets more thoroughly background checked to buy a shotgun than to become President of the United States.
18 posted on 07/24/2009 5:46:54 PM PDT by Gritty (Obama is only a Robert Mugabe with charisma - Judy McLeod)
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Because people who are sleeping in P.O. boxes might not come back to sleep there within 48 hours.


19 posted on 07/24/2009 5:46:59 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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I think that is info the feds keep...I don’t believe it is destroyed, and why would it be? If thye run the serial number of a rifle, then what would happen if they did not know you owned it?


21 posted on 07/24/2009 5:47:37 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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Vee joust vant to know who es buying de guns.


27 posted on 07/24/2009 5:52:06 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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This is for your protection. You know this information is supposed to be destroyed, so in the event a goverment agent shows up at your door looking for that particular weapon, you know the agent is breaking the law and thus you should shoot him. ;o)


28 posted on 07/24/2009 5:52:16 PM PDT by papertyger (A difference that makes no difference is no difference)
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http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/nicsfact.htm

Current destruction of NICS records became effective when a final rule was published by the Department of Justice in The Federal Register, outlining the following changes. Per Title 28, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 25.9(b)(1), (2), and (3), the NICS Section must destroy all identifying information on allowed transactions prior to the start of the next NICS operational day.


29 posted on 07/24/2009 5:52:35 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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I have this problem in CA. My drivers license shows my PO box. I have to show current utility bills.


30 posted on 07/24/2009 5:53:41 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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Simple answer, you don’t live in or at a P.O. Box.

Your place of residence is your official address.


31 posted on 07/24/2009 5:55:49 PM PDT by Cindy
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I don’t know if your state keeps record of the transaction, but when you fill out the 4473 form, the dealer must keep it on file. If their file room gets full, or they decide to close shop they must turn them over to the BATFE. The 4473 stays around forever with your information on it.

Not sure about your state, but in most states face to face transfers, do not require any paperwork.


32 posted on 07/24/2009 5:56:17 PM PDT by jkeith3213
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Your ffl has to keep the 4473 (the form w/your social security info, “have you ever worked as a hired killer?”, etc.) forever. When they go out of business, the paperwork is forwarded to the BATFE.


34 posted on 07/24/2009 5:58:23 PM PDT by LouAvul
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My guess is that they destroy the forms after they copy them. I read a story about a guy that bought an AR15 in California and had a fire call to his address later and someone heard on the scanner to be careful because the guy had bought an AR 15.

Fear a government that fears guns.

36 posted on 07/24/2009 6:13:05 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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My guess is that they destroy the forms after they copy them. I read a story about a guy that bought an AR15 in California and had a fire call to his address later and someone heard on the scanner to be careful because the guy had bought an AR 15.

Fear a government that fears guns.

37 posted on 07/24/2009 6:13:12 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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