Gun Purchase Question (Vanity)

07.24.09 | chickensoup

[devane617]

I think that is info the feds keep...I don’t believe it is destroyed, and why would it be? If thye run the serial number of a rifle, then what would happen if they did not know you owned it?

[july4thfreedomfoundation]

I live in Maine, too.

Buy from a private party....no paper trail, and no invasion of privacy.

[saganite]

The govt is getting wanky.

[Chickensoup]

Thank you

[Belasarius]

The answer to that is supposed to be a stolen guns database. It only contains records of guns known to be stolen. It’s a good idea to keep the serial numbers of your weapons for that reason. In theory you should be able to recover a stolen gun if the cops recover it.

[Chickensoup]

I am also willing and able to prove my birth qualifications to run for the presidency.

[smokingfrog]

Vee joust vant to know who es buying de guns.

[papertyger]

This is for your protection. You know this information is supposed to be destroyed, so in the event a goverment agent shows up at your door looking for that particular weapon, you know the agent is breaking the law and thus you should shoot him. ;o)

[sockmonkey]

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/nicsfact.htm

Current destruction of NICS records became effective when a final rule was published by the Department of Justice in The Federal Register, outlining the following changes. Per Title 28, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 25.9(b)(1), (2), and (3), the NICS Section must destroy all identifying information on allowed transactions prior to the start of the next NICS operational day.

[umgud]

I have this problem in CA. My drivers license shows my PO box. I have to show current utility bills.

[Cindy]

Simple answer, you don’t live in or at a P.O. Box.

Your place of residence is your official address.

[jkeith3213]

I don’t know if your state keeps record of the transaction, but when you fill out the 4473 form, the dealer must keep it on file. If their file room gets full, or they decide to close shop they must turn them over to the BATFE. The 4473 stays around forever with your information on it.

Not sure about your state, but in most states face to face transfers, do not require any paperwork.

[Nitro]

Soup...

go to private reply.

[LouAvul]

Your ffl has to keep the 4473 (the form w/your social security info, “have you ever worked as a hired killer?”, etc.) forever. When they go out of business, the paperwork is forwarded to the BATFE.

[jkeith3213]

Yes, the background check info that is transmitted, is supposed to be destroyed. The actual form though, the 4473 stays on file with the dealer, and the BATFE can check them at any time for compliance.

[mountainlion]

My guess is that they destroy the forms after they copy them. I read a story about a guy that bought an AR15 in California and had a fire call to his address later and someone heard on the scanner to be careful because the guy had bought an AR 15.

Fear a government that fears guns.

[mountainlion]

My guess is that they destroy the forms after they copy them. I read a story about a guy that bought an AR15 in California and had a fire call to his address later and someone heard on the scanner to be careful because the guy had bought an AR 15.

Fear a government that fears guns.

[bitterohiogunclinger]

Currently it is a violation of federal law if the feds do not destroy that information or if any government agency compiles a computerized list of background checks. Former attorney general John Ashcroft cracked down on DOJ officials that were circumventing that law. Do you really think Obama’s justice department is complying?

[GovernmentShrinker]

Because PO boxes are routinely used for fraud. And they probably run a check on the address, to see if it matches an address listed for felons, criminal fugitives, etc. Not that I agree with the whole background check thing, but as long as it exists, requiring a physical address makes sense.

[waterhill]

LOL!!!