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House healthcare talks break down in anger
The Hill ^ | 7/24/2009 | Jared Allen

Posted on 07/24/2009 1:09:57 PM PDT by KansasGirl

House healthcare negotiations dissolved in acrimony on Friday, with Blue Dog Democrats saying they were “lied” to by their Democratic leaders.

The seven Blue Dogs on the Energy and Commerce Committee stormed out of a Friday meeting with their committee chairman, Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), saying Waxman had been negotiating in bad faith over a number of provisions Blue Dogs demanded be changed in the stalled healthcare bill.

“I’ve been lied to,” Blue Dog Coalition Co-Chairman Charlie Melancon (D-La.) said on Friday. “We have not had legitimate negotiations.

“Mr. Waxman has decided to sever discussions with the Blue Dogs who are trying to make this bill work for America,” Melancon said...

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"Waxman simply does not have votes in committee and process should not be bypassed to bring the bill straight to floor,” Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.), the lead Blue Dog negotiator, said on Friday. “We are trying to save this bill and trying to save this party.”

Melancon said there would be 40-45 “solid no” votes from the 52-strong Blue Dogs, among other problems throughout the caucus.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; arra; bhohealthcare; bluedogcoalition; bluedogdemocrats; bluedogs; cbc; congress; democrathealthcare; democrats; healthcare; henrywaxman; obama; obamacare; pelosi; rahm; socializedmedicine; waxman
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To: momto6
f you don’t mind, what are the numbers after the state abbreviation? Pomeroy is listed in Wiki but has an AL after instead of a number what does that mean? I am still learning I guess.

The number refers to the district they represent.

141 posted on 07/24/2009 3:55:25 PM PDT by Faith
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To: denydenydeny

I’m 63.


142 posted on 07/24/2009 3:56:28 PM PDT by vecchia
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To: lonevoice

Ahhhhh . . . music to my conservative ears.


143 posted on 07/24/2009 3:59:14 PM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: Faith

Thank you very much, I was sure it was something simple I was missing.


144 posted on 07/24/2009 4:06:55 PM PDT by momto6
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To: Lazamataz

I thought I was the only one in the world who remembered the “Robin Hood” TV series.


145 posted on 07/24/2009 4:08:20 PM PDT by Free_SJersey (Liberty can promote equality- manditory equality will kill liberty. CONSTITUTION FIRST!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

That means he’s voting yes, most likely. To even consider this bill as legitimate is BS. Therefore, anyone unwilling to say how they’ll vote means they’re going for it.

Stay on him.


146 posted on 07/24/2009 4:22:05 PM PDT by bustinchops
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To: EGPWS

“Circle the wagons and start shooting toward the center!”

bttt


147 posted on 07/24/2009 4:38:49 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: KansasGirl; Owl_Eagle; Sam's Army; Darksheare; pissant; najida; r-q-tek86; blackie; ...

THIS COULD GET FUN>>>PASS THE POPCORN>>>PING!!!!!!


148 posted on 07/24/2009 4:42:46 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: KansasGirl
How about the blue dogs put their foot down and demand NO government health care instead of trying to get a "fix" of the existing plan? We don't need any healthcare run by the government. Down with socialized medicine. keep the health care we have. Even if their inflated figures of people without insurance is true, and they are not, this could easily have been solved by simply buying all these people insurance from the stimulus package. That would be far cheaper than what they are planning now!

No, no , NO nationalized health care!!! Period!

149 posted on 07/24/2009 4:44:51 PM PDT by calex59 (I, me, myself, am actually Jim Thompson)
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To: KansasGirl

Bump for FAIL!


150 posted on 07/24/2009 4:47:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: WayneS

Good. The more anger the better on this one.

There will be time for calm relaxation AFTER Obamacare is dead and gone.
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That’s true!


151 posted on 07/24/2009 4:50:52 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: Recovering_Democrat

They’re just now figuring out their leadership is a bunch of LIARS?!??
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It’s called CYA...


152 posted on 07/24/2009 4:53:20 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: Boardwalk

Yeah, I’m thinking of changing my name.


153 posted on 07/24/2009 4:53:51 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: Kenny

“I wonder how these congress people will feel when it’s their daughter or granddaughter who is denied a test like this until it is too late.”
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Oh, that won’t happen. Of that you can be sure...the politburo, always gets the fine cigars, liquor, cheeses and doctors...

No, they plan to kill the rest of us, and particularly, our parents, grandparents and babies...


154 posted on 07/24/2009 4:57:21 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: a fool in paradise
>sit down and shut up” (a phrase that goes back to the Clinton error)

Era? No I think that the operative phrase with slick Willie was

“shut up and go down”

155 posted on 07/24/2009 5:01:41 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: KansasGirl
Looks like the rats are eating their own, either that or there some democrats who know right from wrong.

Nah, I don't believe it either.

156 posted on 07/24/2009 5:02:33 PM PDT by pctech
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To: edpc

BARF alert that sucker...! :)


157 posted on 07/24/2009 5:03:53 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: Vozda
"I just read that. Do you know why they still call themselves Democrats?"

Interesting question.

Perhaps because they still see themselves on the side of "the little guy", rather than on the side of the big corporate giants that they identify with Republicans as genrally supporting.

I just thought it funny that the Blue Dog common ethic was "fiscal conservatism and accountability", which assumes that the rest of the Democratic Party DOESN'T support those values.

158 posted on 07/24/2009 5:05:09 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: CitizenM

“I can imagine him close to a crisis because his ego can’t tolerate anyone not approving of what he wants - especially a Democrat.”
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And now his numbers are tumbling, so is he thinking - I’m wasting my capital on nothing?

Oh how sweet that sounds...now if we can drive through to 2010 and reverse the other man-made disasters like crap and tax...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2300002/posts


159 posted on 07/24/2009 5:07:33 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: Faith

Bart Gordon (TN 6th), (202) 225-4231
Jane Harman (CA 36th), (202) 225-8220
Mike Ross (AR 4th), (202) 225-3772
Jim Matheson (UT 2nd), (202) 225-3011
Charlie Melancon (LA 3rd), (202) 225-4031
John Barrow (GA 12th), (202) 225-2823
Baron Hill (IN 9th), (202) 225-5315
Zach Space (OH 18th), (202) 225-6265

I saw that list and other than Jane Harman, who I can’t believe is in the “Blue Dog” category, and they all scream RE-ELECTION CONCERNS based on the states alone.

For the life of me I can’t figure out how on God’s green Earth Utah elected a Democratic representative. I thought that state was as red as red can be. Obviously Rep. Matheson realizes that it was a fluke he won and if he had to take this stinker home he’s done for.

Now, I really want to know... how many of us were 100% convinced that with a 60/40 split in the Senate and the majority the Rats have in the House that this bill would be as kaplooey as it apparently is?

All I can say is fortune is favoring the foolish. Our nation should be as lucky to have outside enemies as incompetent as its internal enemies.


160 posted on 07/24/2009 5:09:48 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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