Posted on 07/21/2009 7:14:12 AM PDT by FromLori
Edited on 07/21/2009 1:37:04 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Following the mad recommendations of Peter Singer made in NYT's Sunday magazine, it pays to take a look at what is actually in the healthcare bill.
It's worse than you can possibly imagine. Somehow, it manages to be Singer on steroids. Who wrote this bill. It has Singer's footprints all over it.
Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) is reading it and has been posting on Twitter his findings. This is from his postings (Note: All comments are Fleckman's)
Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!
Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benes u get
Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!
Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose UR HC Benefits 4 you. U have no choice!
PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise
Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access 2 individs finances & a National ID Healthcard will b issued!
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 ur banks accts 4 elect. funds transfer
PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan 4 retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).
Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange 2 bring priv HC plans under Govt control.
PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs 4 priv. HC plans in the Exchange
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration ur Healthcare!
PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic approp svcs. Example - Translation 4 illegal aliens
Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps 2 sign up indiv. for Govt HC plan
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members - U Health care WILL b rationed
-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Indiv. will b automat.enrolled in Medicaid. No choice
pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt Monop
pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what u can make.
Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into pub opt plan. NO CHOICE
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay 4 HC 4 part time employees AND their families.
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Emplyr w payroll 400k & above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll
pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt prov. pub. opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC accrdng 2 Govt will be taxed 2.5% of inc
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from indiv. taxes. (Americans will pay)
Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access 2 ALL Americans finan/pers recs
PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician svcs 4 Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty u have, you'll all be paid the same
PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr's time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans.
PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries
PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs
PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals 4 what Govt deems preventable readmissions.
Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admiss that results in a readmiss-Govt will penalize u.
Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. what/how much they can own.
Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand
pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have oppt to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!!
Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates estab. of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing
Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority 2 disqual Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing peeps in2 Govt plan
Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs ppl! WTF. My sis has down syndrome!!
Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Cmtte. Can u say HC by phone?
PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life
Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!
PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides apprvd list of end of life resources, guiding u in death
PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program 4 orders 4 end of life. The Govt has a say in how ur life ends
Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "adv. care planning consult" will b used frequently as patients health deteriorates
PG 429 Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may incl an ORDER 4 end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV
Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment u will have at end of life
Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?
Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based org. Like ACORN?
PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt in2 ur marriage
Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating, rationing those svcs
Here's the full Health Care bill that sits in the House.
I'd suggezst taking this list with a grain of salt. Ive read the section about these orders, and though it's quite unconstitutional it doesn't give anyone in government "a say in how ur life ends."
Pre-existing conditions are accepted.
SEC. 111. PROHIBITING PRE-EXISTING CONDITION EXCLUSIONS.
A qualified health benefits plan may not impose any pre-existing condition exclusion (as defined in section 2701(b)(1)(A) of the Public Health Service Act) or otherwise impose any limit or condition on the coverage under the plan with respect to an individual or dependent based on any health status-related factors (as defined in section 2791(d)(9) of the Public Health Service Act) in relation to the individual or dependent.
So far so good. This is already standard for private group-health plans.
The problem is that ObamaCare will arbitrarily decide when to stop treating your condition due to “outcome based measures” (Sec 1162(3)(b)(ii)) of “comparative effectiveness research” (Sec 1181).
So basically if you too old or otherwise deemed undesirable, your treatments (kidney dialysis, etc) will simply be stopped.
>> Maybe its time for a whole raftload of conservative Americans to sign up for membership in ACORN-and start going to their meetings
Great benefits plus- wouldnt that just make for some wonderful insider reporting <<
I like your idea, they can make an account here on free republic Like ACORN-SPY-#0001. Reporting from the front lines. Though will ACORN hire people who are already gainfully employed or self-employed??
>> Though will ACORN hire people who are already gainfully employed or self-employed?? <<
I guess just wait few months and there will be more unemployed conservatives.
“TIME TO SURROUND WASHINGTON!!!!”
That is coming up and the date is September 12th.
Our side needs to FLOOD the TV and Internet with commercials highlighting the most horrific tenets of this bill. Read directly from it and then pictorialize it.
What was the name of the new “Czar”, who wrote a textbook advocating Eugenics? Is it the new science czar (or commissar might be a better word)? People like that are the ones making policy. I think a lot of these bills were written up by Marxist/leftists before Obama was ever elected.
If this passes, you can bet that the ones making life-and-death decisions will be petty bureaucrats—fat ACORN employees—who barely speak/write English, sit and pick their nails, and talk on the phone to their BF all day while rubber stamping document after document.
This bill has been written, in more or less this form, for forty years.
You just haven't been paying attention to the American communist movement. They have been clear...crystal clear...about their goals and objectives.
And, now, they think they have won and no one can stop them.
We shall see. Give it 12-18 months, and I think what TASS always used to refer to as the "correlation of forces" will have shifted just a bit.
What form that will take, it's too soon to know.
But the reds now in power don't have the force to apply that they think they do, and the contrary tendencies (real Americans) may turn out to be more powerful than this rabble in power can imagine.
Interesting times.
Yes it was him, Holdren or something equally close to Holder. His whole administration is full of such types.
“TIME TO SURROUND WASHINGTON!!!!”
With Torches and Pick forks
I’ve decided to ping you to threads FYI, feel free to request I cease.
This must be defeated and it's promoters removed from government.
It looks like a seagull about to dive-bomb an unsuspecting tourist with a "bird turd".
Cheers!
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Thank you and please let us know your findings from your analysis.
This is a full out assault on our individual rights and freedoms.
I’m sorry — this bill makes the government a murdering beast. That means we have a horrible duty to preserve our own lives we may have to start taking theirs — that is the lives of the bureaucrats and legislators and judges who would dare implement these murderous provisions called “End of Life”.
I do remember what happened to Terri Schindler. I will not allow it to happen to anyone I love.
(what will it take for the millions of American drones to wake up, or will they never?)
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