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A War Between Two World Views (The coming battle in the US)
RealClearPolitics ^ | 7/17/2009 | David Warren

Posted on 07/17/2009 2:45:34 PM PDT by mojito

[....]The outrage expressed, today, at the very existence of Sarah Palin, not only by progressive Democrats but by urbane "establishment" Republicans, is in many ways the product of this shift. Increasingly, I find, people on the left simply cannot accept any right-wing view as legitimate. The mere fact it can be so labelled puts it beyond the pale.

We often read that the old categories of "left" and "right" have become irrelevant. It is an argument almost invariably propounded by the left. They have been freed, for more than a generation, from anything resembling serious public debate, and have thus got in the habit of proceeding with an infinitely extendible agenda (through the courts if there are legislative delays). The right has meanwhile got in the habit of feeling disenfranchised.

The right is still there, however: mostly invisible to media editors, beyond their goldfish world. (The immense success of Fox News came from recognizing this "niche market," consisting of about half the population.)

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We are going to have a war, next door in the U.S.A. -- a war between two world views that have become very nearly mutually incomprehensible. One might almost say that it was quietly declared on the op-ed of the Washington Post Tuesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatives; culturewars; davidwarren; liberals; palin; sarahpalin
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Bring it on.
1 posted on 07/17/2009 2:45:34 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito
Bring it on.

I'm WAY past that, it's time...

2 posted on 07/17/2009 2:48:14 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: brushcop

Ditto!


3 posted on 07/17/2009 2:50:15 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: mojito; Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ApesForEvolution; aragorn; archy; backhoe; Badray; bayouranger; ..
Cold Civil War Ping.

"We are going to have a war, next door in the U.S.A. -- a war between two world views that have become very nearly mutually incomprehensible. One might almost say that it was quietly declared on the op-ed of the Washington Post Tuesday."

4 posted on 07/17/2009 2:53:16 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: mojito
My 60's plus poker playing club members have all said that there isn't a peaceful way back from here.

Prepare now.

5 posted on 07/17/2009 2:54:35 PM PDT by blam
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To: mojito

Choose this day how you will serve; Will you serve unwillingly and at the bidding of others wearing the yoke of socialism or will you hold true to the course of our forefathers’ standing tall and serving freely? As for me I choose to SERVE THE REPUBLIC!


6 posted on 07/17/2009 2:57:04 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: mojito
Morning papers circulated chiefly in the city cores, among a readership more liberal, and tended to be Democrat. Evening papers circulated more beyond the city, among a readership more conservative, and tended to be Republican. But from any given city, there were two distinct party points of view, and better-informed people read both newspapers. (In Canada, same thing, but Liberal and Conservative parties; in this very town, the examples were the Ottawa Citizen and the Ottawa Journal.)

Good point. The NY Post was originally an afternoon paper. When I lived in SF, the now defunct Examiner (conservative) was also an afternoon paper. I'd never thought of it this way before!

Other than that, though, I don't think he's right in implying that those of us who are conservative are innately anti-technology. Obviously, the fact that we're reading this now shows that we're not! And Sarah Palin certainly cannot be accused of being anti-technology or wanting us to revert to an imagined pre-electronic paradise.

It's only the radical Dem ecologists who want that. One of Bambi's "czars" wrote wistfully of the time before Africans had electricity, how they were out in the street pounding their drums...not to mention having a life expectancy of 35, getting debilitating diseases that left them blind as children, living on maize gruel...well, you get the idea. The Dems are the ones who are backwards and secret Luddites.

7 posted on 07/17/2009 2:57:17 PM PDT by livius
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To: mojito
"Bring it on"

What does that mean? If you believe in something you should take the initiative.


8 posted on 07/17/2009 3:01:12 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: mojito
It's not left vs. right, Democrat vs. Republican, or even liberal vs. conservative; it's state vs. freedom. All of the functions of the state (i.e. government) infringe on our freedom. Anybody who advocates the expansion of this liberty-destroying burden, for any reason is an enemy.
9 posted on 07/17/2009 3:01:30 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (What are you and who do you want?)
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To: blam

60 people playing poker?
That must be one hell of a big table!
ba dum dum.


10 posted on 07/17/2009 3:05:57 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: mojito

Originally-referenced WaPo op-ed here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/13/AR2009071302852.html


11 posted on 07/17/2009 3:07:38 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

You think that’s bad, you ought to see the ashtrays they fill.


12 posted on 07/17/2009 3:08:40 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee

“...op-ed of the Washington Post Tuesday...”
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I missed it anyone got a link handy?


13 posted on 07/17/2009 3:09:13 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: DuncanWaring

The Sara Palin Editorial??


14 posted on 07/17/2009 3:12:00 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: Repeal The 17th
Link
15 posted on 07/17/2009 3:13:15 PM PDT by Al B. (Dennis Miller on why he loves Sarah Palin: "She bugs all the right people")
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To: mojito
Socialism is the vilest evil. It is unacceptable to hold socialist views, to elect persons supporting or advaocating socialism or socialist policies to office, or to have any business dealings with such people (including having them as employees.) It is also unacceptable to buy products from any companies that in any way support or even condone socialism.

That needs to be our message, our mantra and our non-negotiable policy that governs everthing we do and say.

16 posted on 07/17/2009 3:13:55 PM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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To: mojito

Increasingly, I find, people on the left simply cannot accept any right-wing view as legitimate.”

Or rather, he’s becoming increasingly aware of it. Leftards have always been that way. On the other hand, all leftist thought, from the limousine liberalism of a George Clooney to the mass murders of Mao, Stalin, or Pol Pot, is of and from Satan. It is a contaminant in the human cognosphere, not a natural component of it. Although many who are not rabid leftist nonetheless accept this or that leftist proposition, it is therefore an error to accept any left-wing view as legitimate.

“We often read that the old categories of “left” and “right” have become irrelevant.”

They’ve never been more relevant, and we’ve never been more polarized.

“a war between two world views that have become very nearly mutually incomprehensible.”

No, while the left is unable to comprehend anything else, the right understands the left very well indeed.


17 posted on 07/17/2009 3:16:34 PM PDT by dsc (Only dead fish go with the flow.)
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To: mojito
It is to the earthlings in this scenario that Ms. Palin is speaking. And when she writes lines like this intentional jaw-dropper in the Washington Post -- "We are ripe for economic growth and energy independence if we responsibly tap the resources that God created right underfoot on American soil" -- she is quite intentionally signalling that she is ready for war.

18 posted on 07/17/2009 3:17:09 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Chickensoup

I believe so.


19 posted on 07/17/2009 3:17:56 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
“...op-ed of the Washington Post Tuesday...” - I missed it anyone got a link handy?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/13/AR2009071302852.html

20 posted on 07/17/2009 3:20:10 PM PDT by matt1234
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