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New Scientist and Jerry Coyne's Responses to ID Advocate Thomas Jefferson...(Evos unhinged!)
Evolution News & Views ^ | July 16, 2009 | David Klinghoffer

Posted on 07/17/2009 11:50:25 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Responses from the Darwin faithful to anything touching upon intelligent design are often so thoughtless it takes your breath away. I guess this is how they manage to stay impervious to the evidentiary challenge to their religion -- they just don’t think it through, or even read it. A single article in a newspaper or journal taxes their ability simply to read what a person says and respond to that, rather than to what they imagine he would say. Consider the cases of Ewen Callaway and Jerry Coyne.

When Stephen C. Meyer wrote an op-ed in the Boston Globe on Thomas Jefferson as a proto-ID supporter, outraged science journalist Callaway at the New Scientist couldn’t even mount an argument. He calls linking Jefferson and ID a “ridiculous assertion.” But he doesn’t tell us why it’s ridiculous. He writes:...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: awizarddidit; creaetion; evolution; intelligentdesign; science
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1 posted on 07/17/2009 11:50:26 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: allmendream; editor-surveyor; metmom; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; GourmetDan; MrB; valkyry1; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 07/17/2009 11:51:26 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Give to us this day our daily creationist spam....


3 posted on 07/17/2009 11:54:57 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


4 posted on 07/17/2009 11:55:00 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: steve-b

I find your tag-line rather interesting. Conversely, evolution would be: “It just happened”.


5 posted on 07/17/2009 11:57:11 AM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Have you ever thought about using your influence to help bring order and civility to these discussions?

It would be most helpful if both sides could debate each other with out the threats and childish name calling.


6 posted on 07/17/2009 11:58:07 AM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: steve-b

It’s more like filet mignon...stay tuned fore more to come!


7 posted on 07/17/2009 11:58:20 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: rjsimmon

LOL. Very appropriate.

Driven by nothing, formed into everything. Really, “self-induced creationism”.


8 posted on 07/17/2009 12:00:48 PM PDT by Dutchboy88 (I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: DevNet
Shouldn't you be hitting up an Evo to use their influence to convince your fellow materialist co-religionists to stop the threats and childish name calling?????
9 posted on 07/17/2009 12:01:11 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: steve-b

It’d be humorous if the AIs we build in video games one day have this same discussion. Were we intelligently designed, or did we evolve? My AI guy loves to talk about being God to his creations. LOL.

We run them through neural network training that bears some semblance to evolution. But ultimately, they are intelligently designed. And they have no way of interacting with us in our own world. It’s fascinating.


10 posted on 07/17/2009 12:03:00 PM PDT by rom (Obama '12 slogan: Let's keep on hopin'!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Sure sure. They guy who wrote miracles OUT of the Bible wanted to write miracles INTO the everyday natural processes of life.


11 posted on 07/17/2009 12:03:48 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: DevNet

Been there. Tried that. Didn’t pan out. Thanks for asking though!


12 posted on 07/17/2009 12:04:05 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: GodGunsGuts

Are you 12?


13 posted on 07/17/2009 12:06:32 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Thank you for responding.

Sad to say that was the answer I expected.


14 posted on 07/17/2009 12:07:06 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: allmendream

Jefferson was living proof that one does not need scripture to see God’s hand in creation. Unfortunately for Jefferson, and so many others just like him, that’s not enough:

Romans 1:20—For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.


15 posted on 07/17/2009 12:11:22 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Yes, and Jefferson saw God’s hand in creation as making things sufficient unto themselves and not requiring miracles to sustain a shoddily constructed facade.


16 posted on 07/17/2009 12:13:25 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: GodGunsGuts

If Romans 1:20 is true why do you need to use the Bible to prove the Earth is young?


17 posted on 07/17/2009 12:20:34 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Thomas Jefferson rewrote the bible removing every miracle (which he thought was a myth). As he wrote to Adams:

"In extracting the pure principles which he taught, we should have to strip off the artificial vestments in which they have been muffled by priests, who have travestied them into various forms, as instruments of riches and power to themselves."

Hardly someone who believed in the the "God's Fingers Snapped" theory of creation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible

18 posted on 07/17/2009 12:21:20 PM PDT by DManA
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To: allmendream

You have even less of an excuse than Jefferson. Poor chap.


19 posted on 07/17/2009 12:21:35 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: DManA

See #15


20 posted on 07/17/2009 12:22:37 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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