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So, this Lynn Schurman is facing SUCH a difficult choice! She can either continue to pay $100,000 a year for her employees' health coverage, or, she can opt to just pay $45,000 ($750 x 60) to the Federal Government. This allows her to drop her employees' insurance coverage without feeling any guilt whatsoever, while increasing her bottom line by $55,000 per year. It's no wonder she "would welcome an employer mandate."

And people wonder why conservatives are against the so-called "public option." How many employers are going to just give away $55,000 per year or more when there is another option available for their employees? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

1 posted on 07/13/2009 8:37:15 AM PDT by RightFighter
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"We still believe it's a job killer and it will absolutely harm businesses," Austin said.

Well, that's the plan. We'll see if it works.

2 posted on 07/13/2009 8:41:06 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I don't believe anything anyone says about anything anymore.)
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>Businesses with 25 employees or more would be required to offer health insurance or pay $750 a year per full-time worker to the federal government...

In other words, we will take it from you at gunpoint.

3 posted on 07/13/2009 8:44:48 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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Good grief....I pay more than $750 a year for Medicare and I gave they had a sh**load of my money to start with. Makes no sense that a working person would pay less than someone on SS...


5 posted on 07/13/2009 8:46:07 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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What a great way to keep small businesses from expanding beyond 25 employees.

Job killer.


6 posted on 07/13/2009 8:47:33 AM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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“Businesses with 25 employees or more would be required to offer health insurance or pay $750 a year per full-time worker to the federal government, under health care reform legislation being considered in the Senate.”

All I gotta do is pay $750 per year for each employee and I’m off the hook for health insurance?? Yippee!! I pay nearly that much PER MONTH per worker now!


7 posted on 07/13/2009 8:49:01 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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Businesses with 25 employees or more would be required to offer health insurance or pay $750 a year per full-time worker to the federal government, under health care reform legislation being considered in the Senate.

Many companies would jump at the chance to only pay an outlay of $750 year for their employees health insurance. I expect a lot of companies will cancel existing health insurance, pay the government their $750, and tell the employee to go buy their health insurance from the federal government. The problem is it will cost the worker a whole lot of money to make up the difference, since their company group rates will no longer be available.

9 posted on 07/13/2009 8:55:22 AM PDT by rawhide
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First of all it’s illegal for the government to require businesses to pay for insurance.
Second it will mean the end of many businesses.
Third, if you work at a company with 26 employees, start looking for another job.
Fourth, if you apply for a job at a company with 24 employees, forget about it.
Fifth, the “25” will soon be 15, then 10, then 5.


10 posted on 07/13/2009 8:56:00 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberal Laws, Like Liberals, Don't Work)
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Employer responsibility under Senate legislation Employers who don't offer coverage to full-time workers would be assessed $750 a year for each employee Employers who don't offer coverage to part-time workers would be assessed $375 a year for each employee Employers must pay at least 60 percent of their employees' premiums to avoid the assessment Firms with fewer than 25 employees would be exempt from the assessment Source: Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee.

Can anyone say: Government mandated extortion?

12 posted on 07/13/2009 8:57:00 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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How many employees do you have again?


13 posted on 07/13/2009 8:57:40 AM PDT by RikaStrom (Bitter? Who me? Nah, I'm just clinging to my guns!)
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I’ve met with plenty of employers who feel the same way.

If the employer/owner supports Obama, they seem to feel it is their way of “supporting his plan.”

I suspect plenty of these employers will set up ways to cover their own personal medical expenses and options, while they throw their employees into the Obama experiment.


14 posted on 07/13/2009 8:58:28 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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The 750 per year will soon become 1,000 “we didn’t know it would cost so much” then 2,500, then 4,000.


15 posted on 07/13/2009 8:58:31 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party.)
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I put this on another thread but if fits MUCH better here

Vintage Hillary Clinton - 1994

When told the (health) plan could bankrupt small businesses, Mrs. Clinton sighed, "I can't be responsible for every undercapitalized small business in America."

Also, when a woman complained that she didn't want to get shoved into a (health) plan not of her choosing, the first lady lectured, "It's time to put the common good, the national interest, ahead of individuals."

Democrats could care less about the small business men and women of this country. Hence the reason why there was no business stimulus to come out of this Obamination of a "stimulus" bill.

16 posted on 07/13/2009 8:59:13 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (ABC-AP-MSNBC-All Obama, All the time.)
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No problem.

Once you reach the 25th employee you just setup a new LLC and start over with employee #1.


18 posted on 07/13/2009 9:00:52 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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required to offer health insurance or pay $750 a year per full-time worker to the federal government

And just what the hell will the employer get for that $750 a year from the federal government since WE (the taxpayers) ARE the federal government?! Is this like a 'service fee' or something like credit card companies and banks charge?

You have to be pretty savy/stupid or take your pick to keep coming up with another word for T A X!

21 posted on 07/13/2009 9:04:49 AM PDT by kcvl
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Obama is solid gold for lawyers. How many companies will splinter into new 24 person businesses?


22 posted on 07/13/2009 9:06:39 AM PDT by noblejones (<deprecate>Ben Stein 2008.</deprecate> Sarah 2012, 2016, 2020.)
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I am a small business owner and if this is the plan sign me up ! I pay approx $250K per year for 55 employees. I could save 200K on this program; although they will tax that profit but I still come out ahead.
This is probably an error and it should be $750 per month....


24 posted on 07/13/2009 9:07:47 AM PDT by martinidon
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RETAIL BAKERS ASSOCIATION NAMES NEW PRESIDENT
LYNN SCHURMAN, CERTIFIED DECORATOR, OWNER COLD SPRING BAKERY

April 14, 2008

A participant in RBA’s March on Washington, held March 12 in conjunction with the American Baker’s Association, Schurman states the price hike is necessary in order for small bakeries to survive.

Retail Bakers of America (RBA)—a 501(c)6 not-for-profit trade association located in McLean, VA

******

Remind me to avoid this bakery...(they are also wholesale to other retailers & grocers)

http://www.coldspringbakery.com/


26 posted on 07/13/2009 9:13:10 AM PDT by kcvl
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There is another hidden tax increase here as well. Today, the employee contribution is paid with pre-tax dollars. Assuming every employer who owns a calculator will quit offering benefits, the employee contributions will become taxable income (or pay cuts.)


29 posted on 07/13/2009 9:21:20 AM PDT by IamConservative (I'll keep my money. You keep the change.)
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$750 for a full year is a whole lot cheaper than paying insurance premiums.


31 posted on 07/13/2009 9:25:24 AM PDT by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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Lynn Schurman

Lynn Schurman wants to see the same sense of commitment from Minnesota’s congressional delegation that she feels for finding a solution to the nation’s health care crisis.

That’s why the Cold Spring Bakery owner spent the past two days in Washington with other Minnesotans, dropping in at lawmakers’ offices to talk about their health care experiences and to stress a need to revamp the system.

“There’s a sense of urgency that we can’t let this opportunity go by,” Schurman said. “We need to have health care reform, and we need to have something that works for small businesses.”

The activists participated in a demonstration outside the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and attended a public interfaith service Wednesday. They wrapped up their visit Thursday at a Capitol Hill rally of thousands, where “Sopranos” and “Nurse Jackie” star Edie Falco was among the key speakers.

The campaign’s main message is that Congress needs to pass a health care plan that provides coverage for the estimated 46 million Americans who lack it, reduces the overall costs of health care and includes a public option.

More Here

32 posted on 07/13/2009 9:28:38 AM PDT by kcvl
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