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Second Amendment applies to local government
Houston Chronicle ^ | 07/12/2009 | GREG ABBOTT

Posted on 07/12/2009 6:16:34 AM PDT by cbkaty

Americans breathed a sigh of relief last year when the U.S. Supreme Court held that the Second Amendment does, indeed, protect individuals from government infringement on their right to keep and bear arms. Unfortunately, some state and local governments still believe that prohibition does not apply to them.

Last week, I filed a brief on behalf of Texas and 32 other states, asking the court to clarify that the Second Amendment applies just as much to local and state governments as it does to the federal government. At issue are local ordinances that ban handgun possession — even in the home for self-defense.

A Chicago community activist named Otis McDonald wanted to own a handgun to protect against violent threats he received from drug dealers in his high-crime neighborhood. But Chicago law prevents McDonald from doing so.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed; texas
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Keep the faith.....
1 posted on 07/12/2009 6:16:34 AM PDT by cbkaty
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A Chicago community activist named Otis McDonald wanted to own a handgun to protect against violent threats he received from drug dealers in his high-crime neighborhood. But Chicago law prevents McDonald from doing so. If he's a RAT "community organizer" he deserves both the violent crime threats and the inability to defend himself.
2 posted on 07/12/2009 6:22:17 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: cbkaty
Okay children, let's keep repeating this over and over for the slow thinkers, the Socialists and Communists among us: the 2nd Amendment is FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. Repeat ad infinitum and ad nauseam.
3 posted on 07/12/2009 6:23:34 AM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: cbkaty
A Chicago community activist named Otis McDonald wanted to own a handgun to protect against violent threats he received from drug dealers in his high-crime neighborhood. But Chicago law prevents McDonald from doing so.

If he's a RAT "community organizer" he deserves both the violent crime threats and the inability to defend himself.

(sorry, must preview)

4 posted on 07/12/2009 6:23:47 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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Otis McDonald

He must be Irish or a Scot....

5 posted on 07/12/2009 6:37:57 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: brushcop

The 1st Amendment of freedom of speech applies to ALL individuals, living ANYWHERE within the US. So why would the 2nd Amendment be somehow diminished in it’s scope of application to ALL individuals as well?

The Bill of Rights placed few limits on individual freedom, but placed the majority of limits on government intrusion on individual freedom and liberty.


6 posted on 07/12/2009 6:39:25 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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So why would the 2nd Amendment be somehow diminished in it’s scope of application to ALL individuals as well?

It's so easy to confuse the ignorant....public school will ensure continued & growing ignorance and erosion of the Bill of Rights....

7 posted on 07/12/2009 6:46:06 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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Very good, yes, right on point. You know, the Federalist papers hashes out all these points and it’s like every mushy-headed liberal just woke up in a new world of his own making...


8 posted on 07/12/2009 6:48:51 AM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: cbkaty

Public school is not the only platform for teaching children.
Parents and grandparents have a RESPONSIBILITY to teach as well. Just because something is written in a school book does not make it accurate in real life.
Children will listen to the other way of thinking if we take time to give a clear explanation as to why school is not always right.

Unfortunately we have a generation of kids (our children) who were turned loose in the custody of the public schools and we didn’t do a good enough job with the school of life after school.


9 posted on 07/12/2009 7:02:33 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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Unfortunately we have a generation of kids (our children) who were turned loose in the custody of the public schools and we didn’t do a good enough job with the school of life after school.

We? Private school here...religious based.

10 posted on 07/12/2009 7:04:53 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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He must be Irish or a Scot....

Aye lad.

11 posted on 07/12/2009 7:11:00 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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Another call to legislate from the bench.


12 posted on 07/12/2009 7:14:44 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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The 1st Amendment of freedom of speech applies to ALL individuals, living ANYWHERE within the US.

By judicial decree. And how has having the federal judiciary defining speech rights within the individual states in the name of the 1st Amendment worked out?

Pornography is protected while prayer in schools is forbidden. The Ten Commandments are torn out of state courthouses by federal order. Pro-life advocates are arrested for praying too near abortuaries. Manger scenes are removed from town squares at the behest of the ACLU.

Let's turn firearms legislation over to the federal judiciary too. What could possibly go wrong?

13 posted on 07/12/2009 7:27:01 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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Private school here...religious based.

Means very little, sorry. I've been a teacher in the public schools for 20 years. In my travels to various seminars for social studies I have met a large number of private Christian school teachers and they are just as liberal and globalist as their public school colleagues. They may be anti-abortion or not. But they know how to speak to parents and how to put on a good face. Those I have met have often spoken to me during the coffee breaks at such gatherings as to how they feel as if they're behind enemy lines and they never realize that they're speaking to the enemy (me!). In the same way that these social studies teachers feel they have to watch their step among the Christian conservatives well I do the same thing when teaching in the liberal public school system. Except that in the inner city I don't have to be quite so circumspect because there are so many devout christians in my classes.

So I'm in a sense freer than the liberals in the private schools. I have tenure and they usually don't. Believe me when I was in my first three years as a teacher I was a serious turtle and not a tiger. I flew way under their radar while still managing to look myself in the face and not compromise my integrity. My point is that just because you're in a private school and Christian to boot, don't feel too comfortable that the world and it's sin won't intrude. A good way to judge where your private school stands insofar as liberalism or globalism is to look carefully at what they're teaching in social studies about the Bill of Rights and specifically the 2nd and 10th Amendments and what they say overall about gun ownership and guns in general. You might be surprised, even astonished. Also check what they have to say about the United Nations!

14 posted on 07/12/2009 7:46:20 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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Another call to legislate from the bench.

Maybe...but a final nail in the liberal anti-self defense legislation attempts would be a welcomed relief. Regardless.....I know what the Bill of Rights states....

I don't need no stinking courts....

15 posted on 07/12/2009 8:25:06 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: ExSoldier
A good way to judge where your private school stands insofar as liberalism or globalism is to look carefully at what they're teaching in social studies about the Bill of Rights and specifically the 2nd and 10th Amendments and what they say overall about gun ownership and guns in general. You might be surprised, even astonished.

Understood, I review all the history/social studies books....my son uses...he graduates next year and has been in this school since 1st grade. We are also in Texas....the Bill of Rights along with the Lord's prayer are posted in all classes. Period 1 is Bible Studies and has been for 11 years........

I am certain that there are a few liberals in the school....that is to be expected and they are considred examples, according to my son... He shows respect, but understands their objective...he has been taught at home to realize the consequenses of liberalism....I mean ya can't load em on a wagon and run em out of town...yet....

16 posted on 07/12/2009 8:33:34 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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I don't need no stinking courts....

But you want the federal courts to seize state police powers and amend the Constitution from the bench.

17 posted on 07/12/2009 9:20:29 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I’d let this one RAT have his gun if it means the rest of us get incorporation.


18 posted on 07/12/2009 9:31:32 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: o_zarkman44
The 1st Amendment of freedom of speech applies to ALL individuals, living ANYWHERE within the US. So why would the 2nd Amendment be somehow diminished in it’s scope of application to ALL individuals as well?

Especially when the wording is less equivocal than the First.

19 posted on 07/12/2009 9:32:51 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Mojave
But you want the federal courts to seize state police powers and amend the Constitution from the bench.

Really? How's that? Every state agreed to the Constituion, as written, prior to becoming part of the United States....so enforcing what we all agreed upon constitutes federal courts seizing state police powers....? BTW...enforcement should work both ways, state to federal and federal to state.

Not to be disrespectful...but your assuption has no legs.......

20 posted on 07/12/2009 9:43:20 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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