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Obama Worship vs. Palin Worship...What's the difference?
7-11-09 | Bob J

Posted on 07/11/2009 10:48:53 AM PDT by Bob J

We all loved Sarah. She rescued the sinking McCain campaign, said all the right things and holds pretty much the same positions of most FReepers.

They all love Obama. He rescued the sinking DNC, said all the right things and holds pretty much the same positions of most liberals.

Dems, liberals and the MSM are condemned for their all consuming adoration, virtual blindness to any mistakes or faults and slobbering worship of the man. Yet when the same thing happens to Palin it turns into a virtue.

Sarah was a real coup for conservatives. But when she announced her resignation many of us saw this for what it was, a deal breaker for a Presidential campaign. Oh she might run in '12 and she might even win the nomination. But she will not be able to shake the black mark of being labeled a "quitter" by her opponent and the MSM and it is very unlikely she will be able to garner the votes among right leaning dems and independents needed to win the general election.

Sarah decided to give up the hardship of public service. Hers was much harder than most, her opponents and the MSM were relentless in their vicious attacks and persecution. Instead she decided to go for the gold, writing books, the lucrative speakers circuit, not having to answer to a hostile critics and media.

I don't blame her, I think she did what was best for herself and family so I hold no animosity for it. But let's not deceive ourselves. She effectively has taken herself out of the game, a game in which we all were invested heavily in her political future. We NEEDED Sarah to lead a conservative revolution and anyone who thinks she can do it from the sidelines, the speakers circuit, is fooling themselves, just look at Newt. Sarah wnet for Sarah and we were kicked to the curb.

All I'm wondering is if the Palin cheering section, the one that praises every move, every decision whether it's good or bad, the ones that believe she can do no wrong, the ones who look to Sarah as a second coming of some sort, can you please take off the blinders for one second and see reality of the situation?

I ask this because I see these blind followers possibly leading us down a road to failure in '12. Let Sarah be, let her speak, write books, continue saying all the right things, make lots of money and establish some peace in her private life. She, of all, knows her decision has taken her out of the presidential ball game and she is good with it (if she doesn't then she does not have the political savvy to earn our support).

But quit with the relentless, vicious, nasty and foul attacks on your fellow FReepers who have taken the blinders off and made peace with what this all means. You're not doing Sarah any good and of she read some of things that are being written here I have a feeling she'd be the first to blush and ask it to stop.


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To: Bob J
While both are being worshipped, the idolizing of Obama is sickening and much worse than the adulation is for Palin, So far anyway. Placing any politician on a pedestal is wrong.

From another thread today:

EXCLUSIVE: Palin to stump for conservative Democrats

There are NO conservative Democrats! Wake up folks!

61 posted on 07/11/2009 11:44:49 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Mr. Mojo; Bob J

So right. And don’t forget the vanity next time, Bob, k?


62 posted on 07/11/2009 11:45:05 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: MamaB
Of course, and I believe that. I also believe this was a far more stupid move for her to volunteer to stump for Democrats than for her to resign.

I didn't have any feelings about her resigning one way or the other. I trusted her instincts and was more than willing to see how it plays out but this today is a different breed of cat.

This may show she is also human, which I have warned others about earlier. This Sarah worship is risky business.

63 posted on 07/11/2009 11:45:06 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: jla

Those were nice comments by Michael. I pretty much agreed with him at the time. It’s not that time now, so while the words are still nice, the provision of them here on this topic is somewhat of an example of what Bob was talking about.

Some things have happened since they were written. Governor Palin is stepping down. She’s now saying she’ll campaign for Conservative Democrats. I don’t think folks here can be faulted for wondering what Conservative Democrats? I don’t see any. Others don’t either.

I thought her stepping down was a mistake. I think this comment of hers is another. We must retake the majority in Congress. Campaigning for Democrats is not the way to do that. Making sure there are excellent Conservative Republicans in every primary in the nation, is the way to do that. The support of them would be a very productive thing.

Why would Bob and I have any interest in slamming a Conservative who was making the right choices?

I have tried to urge this over the last two week to no avail. People, please don’t put blinders on, just because you’re as desperate as I am to see a successful Conservative come along. They must be of sound mind and have sound plans.

Even if Palin were to get a number of Conservative Democrats elected, and I don’t think there’s a pipe dream scenario in existence that makes that look even remotely possible, who would still be in charge of Congress?

Nancy Pelosi! Is that what you folks think is a great plan?

Our emphasis has to be gaining the majority, so that we set the agenda. Electing Democrats may be a well meaning idea, but it’s a dunderhead idea none the less.


64 posted on 07/11/2009 11:46:22 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: Bob J
What 0bama campaigned on:

What we got:


65 posted on 07/11/2009 11:47:26 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; jla

It appeared to me that you were being very critical of Sarah, and not just repeating what the article said.

However, if you were misunderstood, maybe you could rephrase your post?

I don’t believe you are owed an apology, though.


66 posted on 07/11/2009 11:47:29 AM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I don’t get any pleasure from this, but I agree with you.


67 posted on 07/11/2009 11:48:43 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: Bob J

If the Republican Party can’t do any better than that quitter, we’re really in trouble. When the going gets tough the tough get going. HAHA


68 posted on 07/11/2009 11:49:07 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Left2Right

Spot on! And unlike the Ebony Ectomorph, Sarah Palin can actually balance a checkbook. Obambi is a typical liberal, he’s generous with other people’s money. What a fraud.


69 posted on 07/11/2009 11:50:09 AM PDT by donaldo
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To: Reagan Man

Your conclusion is undeniable. There are NO Conservative Democrats.


70 posted on 07/11/2009 11:50:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

No, you completely and purposely misrepresented and skewed what she stated. In other words you lied. And that, is despicable.


71 posted on 07/11/2009 11:50:42 AM PDT by jla
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To: goldwaterepublican
the serious contenders can get some air.

These ones?

Bobby Jindal of Louisiana.Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota. And Governor, maybe soon a senator, Charlie Crist of Florida. And Sen. John Thune of South Dakota. former governor Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, former governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas.

Do this mental exercise. Imagine any of the above coming to speak in your town. Imagine the venue that would be required to accommodate the expected turnout.

Then

Do the same exercise with Sarah Palin.

Compare and contrast.

72 posted on 07/11/2009 11:51:35 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine PFC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island - LC -6/4/09 - 29 Palms - Camp Pendleton 6/18)
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To: neocon1984
As to the larger topic, I do not worship any mortal person. I don't want to shock anyone here, but Sarah is not perfect. As long as the criticism is well meaning, I have no problem with it, whether I agree with it or not.

Thank you for a voice of reason. I really was a Sarah fan and she's still not totally off my list but this move today is not smart and hopefully there's a good explanation but for any Republican to expect my vote and then campaign for a Democrat is unacceptable.

73 posted on 07/11/2009 11:52:21 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Bob J
Dems, liberals and the MSM are condemned for their all consuming adoration, virtual blindness to any mistakes or faults and slobbering worship of the man. Yet when the same thing happens to Palin it turns into a virtue.

This line is the logical lynchpin of your whole piece, yet it makes no sense. What is the "same thing" that happened to both Sarah Palin and Obama?

74 posted on 07/11/2009 11:54:56 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: DoughtyOne
She should have known the media would play games with this.

Rlles of the game are changing at astonishing speed. MSM power is daily slip sliding away. Plus, Palin has that "connection" thing going on in a way that money can't buy and handlers and spinners cannot manufacture.

75 posted on 07/11/2009 11:57:13 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine PFC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island - LC -6/4/09 - 29 Palms - Camp Pendleton 6/18)
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To: Bob J
I don't blame her, I think she did what was best for herself and family so I hold no animosity for it.

The writer of the article puts it well. But a mother of a still growing family doing what is best for her family does not go along with being a serious candidate for POTUS. Both are full time jobs.

76 posted on 07/11/2009 11:57:38 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: jla

Uh, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2290405/posts how did I lie? This is what the article says.


77 posted on 07/11/2009 11:58:38 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: dixiechick2000

This is what the article says: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2290405/posts. I made up nothing.


78 posted on 07/11/2009 11:59:47 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: dixiechick2000

When someone calls me despicable for no good reason, I feel I’m owed an apology. And I lied or misrepresented nothing.


79 posted on 07/11/2009 12:01:50 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: neocon1984

I would go even further and say that not only is Sarah Palin not perfect but some of her ideas and policies would bother Freepers. She had her critics from Alaska here before she was picked because of her spending and going after the oil companies. She has a populist streak and that can and does get turned against big business at times. She’s also not a purist when it comes to government spending and has increased spending on programs she supports. I would still support her as President but don’t expect her to be a perfect ideological conservative.


80 posted on 07/11/2009 12:03:14 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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