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Political opposition is not a hate crime (6 Military 'emergency centers' to hold 'large number')
washington examiner ^ | July 10, 2009

Posted on 07/10/2009 11:33:12 AM PDT by Mount Athos

What's wrong with this picture? The federal government spends billions on homeland security, but apparently can't stop foreigners from illegally crossing the border or overstaying their visas. The Obama administration wants to bring violent terrorists captured overseas to the mainland and close the military detention center at Guantanamo Bay. Yet in the latest bizarre twist, legislation quietly making its way through Congress would give the White House power to categorize political opponents as hate groups and even send Americans to detention centers on abandoned military bases.

Rep. Alcee Hastings - the impeached Florida judge Nancy Pelosi tried to install as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee until her own party members rebelled - introduced an amendment to the defense authorization bill that gives Attorney General Eric Holder sole discretion to label groups that oppose government policy on guns, abortion, immigration, states' rights, or a host of other issues. In a June 25 speech on the House floor, Rep. Trent Franks, R-AZ, blasted the idea: "This sounds an alarm for many of us because of the recent shocking and offensive report released by the Department of Homeland Security which labeled, arguably, a majority of Americans as 'extremists.'"

Another Hastings bill (HR 645) authorizes $360 million in 2009 and 2010 to set up "not fewer than six national emergency centers on military installations" capable of housing "a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster." But Section 2 (b) 4 allows the Secretary of Homeland Security to use the camps "to meet other appropriate needs" - none of which are specified. This is the kind of blank check that Congress should never, ever sign.

It's not paranoid to be extremely wary of legislation that would give two unelected government officials power to legally declare someone a "domestic terrorist" and send them to a government-run camp. After all, the federal government has done exactly this sort of thing before. During World War II, more than 120,000 law-abiding Japanese Americans were rounded up by the government and confined for four years in ten internment camps surrounded by barbed wire and armed guards. Joy Kogawa chronicled the trauma her family experienced firsthand under FDR's executive order: "Families were made to move in two hours. Abandoned everything, leaving pets and possessions at gun point..."

It was wrong then, and it would be doubly wrong now should members of Congress somehow fail to learn from past mistakes.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communism; hastings; hr645
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To: Mount Athos

“legislation quietly making its way through Congress would give the White House power to categorize political opponents as hate groups and even send Americans to detention centers on abandoned military bases.”

Hey, maybe the March in DC will lead to an all expense trip to AZ. Hope the facilities are as nice as Gitmo ;^)


2 posted on 07/10/2009 11:35:54 AM PDT by jessduntno (NEVER say Cap and Trade Bill. It's the Electricity, Heating Oil and Gasoline Tax Bill....)
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To: Mount Athos
That will be the day!
3 posted on 07/10/2009 11:37:38 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: ANGGAPO

Be afwaid, be vewwy afwaid. This sounds all too true!


4 posted on 07/10/2009 11:41:08 AM PDT by charmedone
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To: Mount Athos

The NRA is attacked for opposing legislation to prevent the sale of firearms to anyone on the Terror Watch List. The NRA has taken the correct position, for anyone who opposes Hussein could find themselves on that list! Anybody remember the United States when it was a free country?


5 posted on 07/10/2009 11:44:07 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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...capable of housing "a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster."

Camel-nose-under-the-tent-door legislation. Says one thing, means another; read between the lines. Step two is to deport political undesirables (opponents) to these "centers".

7 posted on 07/10/2009 11:48:22 AM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: Mount Athos

Why would they need new facilities? Couldn’t they just use all of those prisons camps Bush built after Katrina? /sarc (as if it really needs a tag)


8 posted on 07/10/2009 11:52:25 AM PDT by papasmurf (Save us from 0bama, I prayed. Then I heard, "the 2nd, I saved")
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To: Mount Athos

Even more frightening:

If you sat Omoslem voters down and explained they were being taken to concentration camps, they would REFUSE TO BELIEVE YOU, and they’d GO WILLINGLY TO THE CAMPS.

That is how much they trust Omoslem.


9 posted on 07/10/2009 11:52:25 AM PDT by Islam=Murder (The United States - surrendering to Sharia without a peep.)
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To: Mount Athos
Sigh

The Japs were running intel ops in SoCal
The JAps were rounded up for their own protection in many areas
And Ya, the Japs got screwed.

The camps were generally open to local communities. At the Topaz camp in Utah, many worked local jobs, children visited each others schools with plays, musical programs and the like. (Great Basin Museum has photos at site)

Were the camps not nice places to live? - no argument.

Could it happen again in the US?
Hard to say - would the FedGov have the brass to round up
All Mexicans with shady documents
All mid-eastern immigrant's
Any minority group
Anyone?
I doubt it - it is possible but very unlikely

10 posted on 07/10/2009 11:52:45 AM PDT by ASOC (Who is that fat lady? And why is she singing???)
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To: jessduntno

Someone mentioned this to me and I was Skeptical.

But since no one actually reads the bills anyway......

So this is the change they were looking for!


11 posted on 07/10/2009 11:52:51 AM PDT by RDDABlack
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To: jessduntno
Hey, maybe the March in DC will lead to an all expense trip to AZ. Hope the facilities are as nice as Gitmo ;^)

I wonder if those attending can bring their guns? Imagine one million (even 100K would scare em) citizens walking around with shooters holstered.


12 posted on 07/10/2009 11:54:50 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Words are plentiful, but deeds are precious.- Lech Walesa)
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To: RDDABlack

“So this is the change they were looking for!”

Ohh...you thought they said HOPE AND CHANGE...no, it was DOPE AND CHAINS...


13 posted on 07/10/2009 11:54:52 AM PDT by jessduntno (NEVER say Cap and Trade Bill. It's the Electricity, Heating Oil and Gasoline Tax Bill....)
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To: Mount Athos

This just goes to prove: You can’t have too much ammo.


14 posted on 07/10/2009 11:56:05 AM PDT by Costumed Vigilante (Congress: When a handful of evil morons just isn't enough)
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To: Mount Athos

There is no difference between “liberals” and fascists. When they get into power, they always seek to expand their power and suppress anyone who gets in their way.


15 posted on 07/10/2009 11:58:17 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Fascism: coming back, thanks to the democrats)
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To: Mount Athos

These are “military installations”, currently manned by...military?

It would require the military itself to round up “hate groups”. There are not enough Fed agents to accomplish this, and they WOULD be met with military resistance (Oath Keepers).


16 posted on 07/10/2009 11:59:31 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Oldpuppymax

There are suposedly a million people on the list. I DON’T TRUST IT.


17 posted on 07/10/2009 12:02:57 PM PDT by PghBaldy (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/06/president-obama-visits-wounded-troops.html)
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18 posted on 07/10/2009 12:05:55 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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Hastings term is up 2010.

Any Florida freepers here from District 23? I wonder if there is a strong Conservative to retire Hastings for good? If so, it would be great to have some Palin power to help Hastings lose his seat too. How about campaign against him at the next Florida tea party? People need to know about him.

HR 645 doesn't seem constitutional. It sounds crazy.

19 posted on 07/10/2009 12:09:08 PM PDT by joygrace
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