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Ginsburg: I thought Roe was to rid undesirables
WND ^ | 7/8/09 | staff

Posted on 07/08/2009 6:57:10 PM PDT by pissant

In an astonishing admission, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg says she was under the impression that legalizing abortion with the 1973 Roe. v. Wade case would eliminate undesirable members of the populace, or as she put it "populations that we don't want to have too many of."

Her remarks, set to be published in the New York Times Magazine this Sunday but viewable online now, came in an in-depth interview with Emily Bazelon titled, "The Place of Women on the Court."

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Question: Are you talking about the distances women have to travel because in parts of the country, abortion is essentially unavailable, because there are so few doctors and clinics that do the procedure? And also, the lack of Medicaid for abortions for poor women?

Ginsburg: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae – in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion. Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn't really want them. But when the court decided McRae, the case came out the other way. And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: abortion; baderginsburg; bigotry; cullingtheherd; eugenics; ginsberg; ginsburg; lping; moralabsolutes; nazi; overpopulation; prolife; racist; rbg; ruthbaderginsburg; undesirables
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To: randomhero97

With her pancreatic cancer she ain’t far away.


101 posted on 07/08/2009 7:47:00 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: pissant

From what I understand, the founder of planned parent hood placed locations by black neighborhoods...the founder was a racist.


102 posted on 07/08/2009 7:47:10 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: All
Has anybody else checked the source for this WND report? I searched all four pages for the text "populations that we don't want to have too many of" and it wasn't on any of them.
103 posted on 07/08/2009 7:47:18 PM PDT by KarinG1 (You're just jealous because the voices don't talk to you.)
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To: Lorianne

So then she was vigorously opposed to R v. W and the abortion industry prior to 1980, right???????


104 posted on 07/08/2009 7:47:21 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Very interesting, thanks for posting.

I still think you need a ping list [:-)


105 posted on 07/08/2009 7:47:23 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: Tax-chick
She’s gotten so old and senile that she’s telling the truth in public.

The left will have to assign someone to watch her.

106 posted on 07/08/2009 7:47:41 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: devolve

I guess neither one devolve. She is sick now so best not to post them. We quit on Kennedy after he became ill.


107 posted on 07/08/2009 7:47:58 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: pissant

Words fail me...


108 posted on 07/08/2009 7:48:57 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: fullchroma

in defense of the justice, she probably meant society in general. we as a society do not want parasites sucking the taxpayers dry while they collect welfare, medicaid, food stamps, or sit in prison costing us large amounts to feed and clothe them. regardless of race, ethnic makeup, we as a society do not need these parasites. and i agree that she was not saying it was her wish for this to be so, but her interpretation at the time roe was decided.


109 posted on 07/08/2009 7:49:57 PM PDT by madamemayhem (there are only two places in the world: over here and over there.)
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To: pissant
"says she was under the impression that legalizing abortion with the 1973 Roe. v. Wade case would eliminate undesirable members of the populace, or as she put it "populations that we don't want to have too many of."

Isn't that what this was always about???
She's just being candid about the depopulation conspiracy.
Margaret Sanger & Co.


110 posted on 07/08/2009 7:50:38 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: CharacterCounts

She obviously and quite clearly states she is pro-abortion, and frets over accessibility. However, the WND snippets seem designed to imply she favors eugenics when it seems that that was her perception of the ruling, not necessarily her personal opinion regards legalized abortion.

But she is just like the rest of the feminist libs. The Left doesn’t get it when Sarah Palin says it’s about country, and people like Ginsburg don’t get it when we say it’s about life. They are all about personhood but cannot make the connection to life.


111 posted on 07/08/2009 7:52:09 PM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: pissant

What’s the big deal? Planned parenthood’s founder, Margret Sanger, was a huge proponent of eugenics. Why should this surprise anyone?

Remember, just scratch the surface of a member of the “liberal elite,” and you’ll find support for murderous, authoritarian regimes.

Mark


112 posted on 07/08/2009 7:52:48 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: pissant
Not to defent Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg, but WND is misreading this. Not the first time, and probably not an accident.

She's saying that she thought that the purpose of Roe was actually to rid society of too many undesirables, but that Harris convinced her that it was actually just to control women. She's a bit tinfoily, if you ask me.

I would note, though, that she never mentions anything about the unborn children who are killed, even in partial birth abortions. The possibility that these human persons might have some rights apparently never even entered her mind. Her extreme feminism has blinded her to basic humanity.

113 posted on 07/08/2009 7:54:29 PM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: visualops

If she thought R.v W. was based upon eugenics, then she was naturally opposed to it until 1980 when she found out it wasn’t so, right?


114 posted on 07/08/2009 7:55:05 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

That’s the kind of statement of belief that makes me hate liberals. A freaking Justice of the SC no less...


115 posted on 07/08/2009 7:55:20 PM PDT by GBA
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To: Mr_Moonlight
Can somebody report on whether the NY Times actually reports this at all? I simply can't believe that they will print it, since it puts abortion and one of the "high priests of the left" in a very ugly light. And the Slimes has a long history of making sure the stories they tell jive with their beliefs, not the facts.

Mark

116 posted on 07/08/2009 7:55:27 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: B Knotts

If she thought R.v W. was based upon eugenics, then she was naturally opposed to it until 1980 when she found out it wasn’t so, right?


117 posted on 07/08/2009 7:55:36 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Mojave
The left will have to assign someone to watch her.

Or silence her.

I bet Hillary would jump at the chance to on the Supreme Court.

SOS is the weakest she's been in a long time.

She had more clout as first lady. She had more clout as Senator. Now she 's babysitting the ousted Marxist.

118 posted on 07/08/2009 7:56:14 PM PDT by csvset
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To: visualops
However, the WND snippets seem designed to imply she favors eugenics when it seems that that was her perception of the ruling, not necessarily her personal opinion regards legalized abortion.

I did not get that impression from the snippets. I read it that she thought society was in favor of the reducing certain undesirable populations and this was behind the ruling in Roe.

The fact remains that she supported Roe, a ruling she perceived as based on a eugenics theory.

119 posted on 07/08/2009 7:58:04 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: Glenn
We are all dying, so what?

Is it the same thing as not criticizing Obama simply because he is Black and a Communist?

120 posted on 07/08/2009 7:58:17 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Hitler used a TelePrompter, we would all be speaking German...)
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