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Ginsburg: I thought Roe was to rid undesirables
WND ^ | 7/8/09 | staff

Posted on 07/08/2009 6:57:10 PM PDT by pissant

In an astonishing admission, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg says she was under the impression that legalizing abortion with the 1973 Roe. v. Wade case would eliminate undesirable members of the populace, or as she put it "populations that we don't want to have too many of."

Her remarks, set to be published in the New York Times Magazine this Sunday but viewable online now, came in an in-depth interview with Emily Bazelon titled, "The Place of Women on the Court."

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Question: Are you talking about the distances women have to travel because in parts of the country, abortion is essentially unavailable, because there are so few doctors and clinics that do the procedure? And also, the lack of Medicaid for abortions for poor women?

Ginsburg: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae – in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion. Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn't really want them. But when the court decided McRae, the case came out the other way. And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: abortion; baderginsburg; bigotry; cullingtheherd; eugenics; ginsberg; ginsburg; lping; moralabsolutes; nazi; overpopulation; prolife; racist; rbg; ruthbaderginsburg; undesirables
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To: Mr_Moonlight
I never doubted that was the reason behind Roe v. Wade.

In conversations with both Democrats and "progressive" Republicans, because I'm white, they've felt comfortable telling me that even though they consider abortion a sin, it's necessary because "those people" reproduce so much.

It's something a lot of us knew, but Ginsburg just put it out on the table, assuming this article is accurate.

81 posted on 07/08/2009 7:33:18 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: pissant

I thought I was beyond being able to be shocked.


82 posted on 07/08/2009 7:33:23 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: pissant

Social Darwinism rears its ugly head.


83 posted on 07/08/2009 7:33:31 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Red in Blue PA

perhaps i am odd but i got the impression she meant parasites. the ones who live on govt aid, welfare, medicaid. the ones who wind up in prison being supported by tax payers. i did not think it was about a particular race.


84 posted on 07/08/2009 7:34:03 PM PDT by madamemayhem (there are only two places in the world: over here and over there.)
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85 posted on 07/08/2009 7:34:43 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: mass55th

Jews for Genocide. It’s a small club but now we know she’s the president.


86 posted on 07/08/2009 7:34:53 PM PDT by hometoroost (Torture? Would you rather do 5 years at Gitmo or 5 hours with the Muslims?)
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To: Glenn
She’s dying. I won’t comment.

By all means comment while she is still alive, maybe she'll be shamed into repenting before she dies.

87 posted on 07/08/2009 7:35:14 PM PDT by murphE ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
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To: devolve

[(Hey! I was a blond blue-eyed kid once!)

Once upon a time, and I was a blond, green-eyed kid. Wonder if the green eyes would have done me in? Naa, it worked fine.

I didn’t know where your Ginsberg gif was or would have posted it. She is sick, perhaps all her inner feelings are coming out now!


88 posted on 07/08/2009 7:35:26 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: pissant

I can’t believe she would say that; but she is a product of affirmative action; so I believe she would say it.


89 posted on 07/08/2009 7:38:11 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Wissa
Except that Ginsburg will be gone before long and there will be another Sotomayor type in the makeup. Perhaps evil as the next one may be - they will like blonds, lol.
90 posted on 07/08/2009 7:38:57 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: visualops
The WND quotes are rather misleading. She goes on to say she realized her perception(about Roe v Wade) was wrong.

Not misleading at all. The excerpts above clearly state this.

The point is she had this perception and still supported abortion prior to the 1980 Harris ruling.

91 posted on 07/08/2009 7:40:48 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: pissant

BTTT

life


92 posted on 07/08/2009 7:40:52 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: the Real fifi
She was ascribing to the authors of the Roe decision such a view but realized by 1980 when they sustained the Hyde amendment blocking use of Medicare funds for abortion that she had been wrong in ascribing such motives to them.

Your interpretation is technically correct.

At the same time, from her quote, it is evident that she didn't have a problem the Roe decision being eugenically driven. But she did have a problem with McRae, which countered that perception.

She wasn't troubled, in the least, by her initial interpretation.

93 posted on 07/08/2009 7:42:11 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: potlatch

.

ZZZZZZZ.gif or Ginsberg.gif ???

Old stuff

I don’t know where they are either!


94 posted on 07/08/2009 7:42:48 PM PDT by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sarah Palin 2012 - - - - - -)
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To: pissant

OMG piss. Thanks for posting this. Unbelievable.


95 posted on 07/08/2009 7:43:19 PM PDT by Miss Behave (OMG, my tagline is stalking me.)
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To: the Real fifi
I considered that too but Ginsburg could have said the following, so many different ways:

Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of.

Not growth in populations that, say, segments of society don't want too many of, she said "populations WE don't want to have too many of.

96 posted on 07/08/2009 7:44:42 PM PDT by fullchroma (I want my country back.)
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To: pissant

I think she’s saying something quite different than what this article makes out. If you read the NYT interview, it is more clear that she thought that abortion would be covered under Medicaid because the prevailing thinking at the time was that our culture wanted fewer of certain people.

She was basically pleasantly surprised that the court didn’t cater to that supposed cultural sentiment.


97 posted on 07/08/2009 7:45:53 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: pissant

98 posted on 07/08/2009 7:46:27 PM PDT by Cooter
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To: pissant
...and SHE graduated number one in her class at Columbia Law. Beyond belief...

But can you imagine if a Republican said it??

99 posted on 07/08/2009 7:46:31 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Who ever thought we would long for the days of the Clinton administration...)
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To: Miss Behave

What is it with the nasty language? I just saw another post deleted for it.


100 posted on 07/08/2009 7:46:42 PM PDT by potlatch
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