Posted on 07/07/2009 12:05:07 PM PDT by califamily4W
It was hard for the Democrats to get the 219 votes they needed to pass the "cap and trade" climate change bill in the U.S. House two weeks ago. Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat, may have rolled the dice but, veteran Capitol Hillers say, it was only the intervention of President Barack Obama and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel that managed to close the deal.
They did it by pitching the vote as a referendum, at least internally, on Obama's presidency rather than on the underlying issue. No president likes to lose, least of all on a signature issue like the need to combat climate change, so the White House ratcheted up the stakes and, one presumes, took down names.
Of course the Democrats had help from eight Republicans, who are now on the receiving end of criticism of their own. It's gotten so thick, reports one senior Republican aide, the defecting GOPers are looking to members of the leadership to bail them out. Those requests have, thus far, fallen on deaf ears, the attitude being that those eight Republican "Aye" votes allowed eight potentially vulnerable Democrats to skate on what was, for them, a tough vote.
Now the bill heads to the U.S. Senate, where it may face an even tougher time, according to an analysis of the vote by Phil Kerpen, of the pro-taxpayer group Americans for Prosperity. Having crunched the numbers, Kerpen points out that out of 50 state delegations, 28 voted "No" and only 22 voted "Aye" on the House bill, and that more than a quarter of the votes in came from just two states: New York and California. Additionally:
And this is Rockefeller Republican leadership. Imagine the dutch they are in with actual conservatives.
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Hopefully the 8 republicns who voted for this get lost in the primary’s
We dont need the likes of them.
I have no faith in the senate turning down cap and trade.
Asn an energy policy it plain sucks. The right energy policy would be nukes and clean coal and NOW.
Rep. McClintock gave the following floor speech in opposition to the Cap and Trade legislation on June 26, 2009.
"I had a strange sense of Deja Vu as I watched the self-congratulatory rhetoric on the house floor tonight, and I feel compelled to offer this warning from the Left Coast.
Three years ago, I stood on the floor of the California Senate and watched a similar celebration over a similar bill, AB 32. And I have spend the last three years watching as that law has dangerously deepened Californias recession. It uses a different mechanism than Cap and Trade, but the objective is the same: to force a dramatic reduction in carbon dioxide emissions.
Up until that bill took effect, Californias unemployment numbers tracked very closely with the national unemployment rate. But then in January of 2007, Californias unemployment rate began a steady upward divergence from the national jobless figures. Today, Californias unemployment rate is more than two points above the national rate, and at its highest point since 1941.
What is it that happened in January of 2007? AB 32 took effect and began shutting down entire segments of Californias economy. Let me give you one example from my district. The City of Truckee, California was about to sign a long-term power contract to get its electricity from a new, EPA-approved coal-fired electricity plant in Utah. AB 32 and companion legislation caused them to abandon that contract. The replacement power they acquired literally doubled their electricity costs.!!!" (exclamation mine)
And no source of funding for his other plans for America.
Things will devolve in that direction shortly, I think.
“Of course the Democrats had help from eight Republicans, who are now on the receiving end of criticism of their own. It’s gotten so thick, reports one senior Republican aide, the defecting GOPers are looking to members of the leadership to bail them out. Those requests have, thus far, fallen on deaf ears, the attitude being that those eight Republican “Aye” votes allowed eight potentially vulnerable Democrats to skate on what was, for them, a tough vote.”
EXACTLY! Screw these numbskulls.
with regards to that, I sense that Obama hasn't seen nothing yet. Who's the fool(s), those in his admin or him? None of them seem to be on the same page about anything. Gibbs is the worst, or the best, depending on ones political philosophy.
CO2: Rich White People worst offenders
Carbon Tax On Individuals
"Minorities exhale little or no CO2," says experts' consensus.
Sure he does. Its called S 774 aka National Energy Security Act of 2009. Its the Senate's companion bill to the House's cap and trade bill.
“those eight Republican ‘Aye’ votes allowed eight potentially vulnerable Democrats to skate on what was, for them, a tough vote.”
Those Aye votes provided cover for all 43 Democrat “No” votes. Every Democrat who voted no can say they voted that way because of “conviction.” Great, ain’t it?
The comments were fun to read... about 9 to 1 against this monstrosity.
Kneecap and Tax?
"Bite Me!" seems and appropriate response.
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