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Pope Seeks "Global Authority" For Economy
Reuters ^ | 7 July 09 | Philip Pullella

Posted on 07/07/2009 8:39:18 AM PDT by vivalaoink

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) – Pope Benedict on Tuesday called for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy and for more government regulation of national economies to pull the world out of the current crisis and avoid a repeat.

The pope's call for a re-think of the way the world economy is run came in new encyclical which touched on a number of social issues but whose main connecting thread was how the current crisis has affected both rich and poor nations.

Called "Charity in Truth," parts of the encyclical appeared bound to upset conservatives because of its underlying rejection of unbridled capitalism and unregulated market forces, which he said had led to "thoroughly destructive" abuse of the system.

The pope said every economic decision has a moral consequence and called for "forms of redistribution" of wealth overseen by governments to help those most affected by crises.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichrist; catholic; churchofrome; economy; mysterybabylon; nwo; pope; religion; whoreofbabylon
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To: vivalaoink

Someone tell me again about this ‘infallibility’ thing...


41 posted on 07/07/2009 9:24:52 AM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: Pyro7480; vivalaoink; ScottinVA; Venturer; PetroniusMaximus; MyTwoCopperCoins; Oldpuppymax; ...

Post 28 is not from Reuters


42 posted on 07/07/2009 9:25:27 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Pyro7480
Oh, right. I didn't notice.
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43 posted on 07/07/2009 9:27:10 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Pyro7480

http://news.google.com/news/more?um=1&ned=us&cf=all&ncl=dMnR1-CEmnWv7QMA1p4CyY7tljrsM

you could view the other +800 sources...


44 posted on 07/07/2009 9:27:52 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: PetroniusMaximus
That fluff and you know it.

Don't quit your day job, the "psychic mind reader" stuff is not going to work out for you.

...the Pope is calling for the formation of the greatest political power the world has ever seen.

Not the Pope, but the vivisected and cauterized version of his words that you posted.

It absolutely does.

Nope.

You can change his words in your post, but you cannot change his words in reality. He said what he said, NOT what you said he said.

45 posted on 07/07/2009 9:29:12 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Honest question: do you think all these media organizations have read a 51-page document, and have made the right interpretation of it?


46 posted on 07/07/2009 9:30:26 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: PetroniusMaximus; Pyro7480; vivalaoink; ScottinVA; Venturer; MyTwoCopperCoins; Oldpuppymax
Post 28 is not from Reuters

Yet, true to the deceitful spirit of Reuters, post 28 has been edited--no, butchered--to fundamentally change the meaning of the original.

47 posted on 07/07/2009 9:31:18 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: vivalaoink

Pope endorses world Communism.


48 posted on 07/07/2009 9:31:47 AM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: Petronski

Since he is calling for an organization with power to enforce its will, it is STUPID to say “Such an authority would need to be regulated by law, to observe consistently the principles of subsidiarity and solidarity, to seek to establish the common good”.

We have a Constitution - so our government is under law.

Where is Barry’s birth certificate? By what rational reading of the Constitution does the US Government do most of what it does?


49 posted on 07/07/2009 9:32:46 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Yes, but you didn't see this earlier either:

42. ...The processes of globalization, suitably understood and directed, open up the unprecedented possibility of large-scale redistribution of wealth on a world-wide scale; if badly directed, however, they can lead to an increase in poverty and inequality, and could even trigger a global crisis. It is necessary to correct the malfunctions, some of them serious, that cause new divisions between peoples and within peoples, and also to ensure that the redistribution of wealth does not come about through the redistribution or increase of poverty: a real danger if the present situation were to be badly managed.

57. ...A particular manifestation of charity and a guiding criterion for fraternal cooperation between believers and non-believers is undoubtedly the principle of subsidiarity, an expression of inalienable human freedom. Subsidiarity is first and foremost a form of assistance to the human person via the autonomy of intermediate bodies. Such assistance is offered when individuals or groups are unable to accomplish something on their own, and it is always designed to achieve their emancipation, because it fosters freedom and participation through assumption of responsibility. Subsidiarity respects personal dignity by recognizing in the person a subject who is always capable of giving something to others. By considering reciprocity as the heart of what it is to be a human being, subsidiarity is the most effective antidote against any form of all-encompassing welfare state. It is able to take account both of the manifold articulation of plans — and therefore of the plurality of subjects — as well as the coordination of those plans. Hence the principle of subsidiarity is particularly well-suited to managing globalization and directing it towards authentic human development. In order not to produce a dangerous universal power of a tyrannical nature, the governance of globalization must be marked by subsidiarity, articulated into several layers and involving different levels that can work together. Globalization certainly requires authority, insofar as it poses the problem of a global common good that needs to be pursued. This authority, however, must be organized in a subsidiary and stratified way, if it is not to infringe upon freedom and if it is to yield effective results in practice.

50 posted on 07/07/2009 9:33:09 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: 3niner

See post #50.


51 posted on 07/07/2009 9:33:34 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: vivalaoink

Christians, think for yourselves. You don’t need a pope to do it for you, especially when it comes to economics.


52 posted on 07/07/2009 9:35:51 AM PDT by mc6809e
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To: Pyro7480

“Honest question: do you think all these media organizations have read a 51-page document, and have made the right interpretation of it?

Out of 800+ articles, I think the odds favor that
someone has read it completely. By the end of the
day, many will.

Truthfully, he comes across as a socialist sometimes.


53 posted on 07/07/2009 9:39:23 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

That’s because too many treat the free-market as if it were dogma. It’s a human institution, and subject to imperfections.


54 posted on 07/07/2009 9:42:09 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
I'll admit that your contribution tips me towards being a bit more wary; I had quit readin the 124 page document when I though I had found the relevant sections. Mea Culpa. But, gee, what are some of those things you are omitting in your ellipses? "Such an authority would need to be regulated by law, to observe consistently the principles of subsidiarity and solidarity, to seek to establish the common good." "Subsidiarity" is the principle that authority must lie in the individual, or the smallest unit of governance or control possible. "Regulated by law," the pope explained previously, means that the nations of the Earth must consent and ratify democratically the actions of the body.

A humanism which excludes God is an inhuman humanism.

55 posted on 07/07/2009 9:42:17 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Petronski
"...urgent need of a true world political authority"
 
That's all I need to hear.
 

"The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. And he said to him, "I will give you all their authority and splendor, for it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to."
 

56 posted on 07/07/2009 9:46:25 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus; Petronski
See post 28
See post 32.

(2 birds w/one stone. lol!)

I think the proper way to view this, is that the pope realizes that secular global government and financial authorities are going to do this anyway. So all that he is really doing is providing a framework by which the Church will judge their efforts to be either moral or immoral.

57 posted on 07/07/2009 9:51:53 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!!)
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To: vivalaoink

Can we wait to see what the encyclical really asys before everyone gets pissy?


58 posted on 07/07/2009 9:54:09 AM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Pyro7480

“That’s because too many treat the free-market as if it were dogma. It’s a human institution, and subject to imperfections.

Hey, if reuters got it wrong, then he gets a pass. If he really said this stuff, he got it wrong and deserves any
criticism that comes his way. Plus, if he really believes
what he said, he deserves to be referred to as a socialist
pope. No more, no less. I’m willing to wait.


59 posted on 07/07/2009 9:54:10 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: dangus

“But, gee, what are some of those things you are omitting in your ellipses? “Such an authority would need to be regulated by law, to observe consistently the principles of subsidiarity and solidarity, to seek to establish the common good.””

I cut out what I considered to be portions not directly related to a world authority. No malice intended.


60 posted on 07/07/2009 9:54:43 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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