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Former Defense Secretary Robert McNamara Dies
foxnews.com ^ | 07/06/09 | Staff

Posted on 07/06/2009 6:21:18 AM PDT by DFG

Former Defense Secretary Robert McNamara has died.

McNamara, 93, died at home in his sleep Monday morning, his wife Diana told The Associated Press. She said he had been in failing health for some time.

Known as a policymaker with a fixation for statistical analysis, McNamara was president of the Ford Motor Co. when President John F. Kennedy asked him to head the Pentagon in 1961.

McNamara worked for seven years as the defense secretary in the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, longer than any other person in that post. He headed the war department during the build-up of forces in Vietnam.

He is considered the architect of the concept of "mutual assured destruction," a key feature of the nuclear arms race during the Cold War.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: dod; jfk; lbj; mcnamara; michigan; secdef; whizkids
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To: DFG
Robert Strange Meowed.

And yes - "strange" really was his middle name.

101 posted on 07/06/2009 8:29:41 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: DFG

Good riddence you POS! May you meet all the men you sent to their premature deaths at the gates of heaven on your way down.


102 posted on 07/06/2009 8:36:36 AM PDT by crazydad (=============)
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To: Freds2nd
Where would Les Aspin fit on this list? He denied armored vehicles to our troops in Somalia. We are very fortunate for his short tenure as SecDef.

Thanks for reminding me. "Less" Ass-wipe is 3rd now...right above Rumsfeld

103 posted on 07/06/2009 8:38:42 AM PDT by meandog (Doh!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
You can call him a human being, I for one, am not sure what he and LBJ were! They sent 60,000 human beings to their deaths while tying their hands. Those two escalated the war while holding our warriors hands behind their backs. Reprehensible if you ask me!

You will get no sympathy for either of them from me.

104 posted on 07/06/2009 8:39:03 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Markets and Marxists Don't Mix! Smile you're on Janet's Candid Camera!)
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To: mj1234
Very important points. We are just not determined to win anymore.
105 posted on 07/06/2009 8:45:11 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
We don’t do that on Free Republic

I agree with your sentiment, I wish it were true.

106 posted on 07/06/2009 8:46:06 AM PDT by Jolla
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

How can you say you are seeing this with 20/20 vision when you have little to no knowledge of what took place?

The truth about the Vietnam War has been distorted and covered up to the point that at your age unless you have spent a good portion of your life doing your own research and interviews you are blind to the facts of that war- a far cry from the 20/20 vision you claim to have.

The bitterness about the Vietnam War comes directly from the management of the war itself and the lies that followed. For many years those who lived during that time that understood what happened and especially the soldiers who fought there have been silenced by the shrill screams of lies from the liberals. Those who know the truth should not be silenced- they should be encouraged to speak the truth, and those who don’t know should listen and learn.

This might be ancient history to you- but the effects have shaped our history to this day and into the future. I recommend you make the effort to learn what you can about the War and the politics of the time- it will give you a clearer picture of what is happening now. When you have an opportunity to learn from those that experienced it- then you should not be trying to shut them up.

Yes there are indeed painful feelings about Vietnam- you should be curious about why that is, make the effort to understand the truth.

The country has not moved forward from Vietnam- much of what happens today began with the lies of the past. The crazy liberals of today gained their strength from those lies and learned the lessons of distortion from that time. If we could uncover the truth and pass it on in a way that is understood we might be able to convince those your age to open their eyes not just to the lies of the past, but the lies of today.

Saying it was 40 years ago and doesn’t matter today seems logical to you at your young age- but to those of us that have lived a longer life we understand that history is important, things that happened 40 years before I was born had a great impact on things that have happened in my life. The Vietnam War had a great impact on your life and will continue to impact your life in ways you cannot know if you don’t make the effort to figure it out.


107 posted on 07/06/2009 8:46:21 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: Springman
He didn't. The talking point is that he was part of the strategic bombing survey that pinpointed targets for the bombing.

I address the weaknesses of this in my book, "America's Victories," but also how we succeeded in spite of the McNamara plan.

108 posted on 07/06/2009 8:48:27 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: saminfl
absolutely, i have no problems with it as a bomber, etc... but NOT as a Fighter with side by side seating where the pilot needs to see out both sides at will.

that was his sin pushing it off as a fighter.

109 posted on 07/06/2009 8:52:36 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: oh8eleven

Are you respondng to the question of firebombing Japanese cities or are you trying to insult my military sevice?


110 posted on 07/06/2009 8:58:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: meandog

4. Hitlery Rotham Clinton.


111 posted on 07/06/2009 8:58:08 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholics voted based upon the teachings of the church, there would be no abortion and no Obomba.)
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To: windcliff

Good riddance.

Lord, what you will....


112 posted on 07/06/2009 9:05:13 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Mr. K

Many here have very strong opinions of this man, he think-tanked the Viet Nam war and was the godfather of the M-16. In my opinion, he proved the sheer foolishness of trying to micro manage a war from Washington,depending on charts and numbers to make decisions.
A perfect example of management vs leadership. Thank God power point wasn’t around then!

Jack


113 posted on 07/06/2009 9:06:25 AM PDT by btcusn
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To: Tammy8

I have read about the war. Did you know human beings have historically made really big fatal mistakes ?

Not just Vietnam.

But you can’t dwell on it. and sometimes it is human nature to find someone and put goat horns on them. But you can’t go back and change things. I am sure McNamara wished he could have.

a lot of bad things have happened from human error. not just wars. The great depression was bad. The sinking of the Titanic.

The reality is. we have to move beyond the past. Learn from history, but not re live it. and we should not have this debate before they have even burried the man.

sometimes we get so caught up in things. the 60s were just another decade on this earth. and on God’s watch. it went by in about a tenth of a second maybe.

There was that song about the great depression. “Song of the South”. It captured the pain of the era. but the whole point of the song to me was, “we survived, now lets move on”


114 posted on 07/06/2009 9:07:58 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin 2012)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
. . but, we haven't "moved on", we're exactly in the same spot, under the thoughtless thumb of a dirty stinking Uber-intellectual who thinks he knows better than us how we should live and die.

And remember, don't use too many bullets out there on the front lines boys.

115 posted on 07/06/2009 9:14:56 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: DFG

The village has reclaimed one of it’s lost idiots.


116 posted on 07/06/2009 9:16:39 AM PDT by papasmurf (Save us from 0bama, I prayed. Then I heard, "the 2nd, I saved")
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To: Mr. K
Almost singlehandedly responsible for the disaster of the VietNam war

Him and his boss, the other president from Texas.

117 posted on 07/06/2009 9:18:47 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: rbg81

If you read the outstanding book “Wide Body,” there’s a section that exposes him as being just as clueless about airplanes.


118 posted on 07/06/2009 9:20:08 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're definitely in the Rise of the Empire era, but is Obama Valorum or Palpatine?)
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To: DFG
The worst SecDef in my lifetime.

Agreed.

119 posted on 07/06/2009 9:24:51 AM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

He was the father of the Ford Falcon.


Not sure if that was a good or bad thing. Supposedly, it was one of the first Detroit attempts at a small, utilitarian car. It was a little before my time though.


120 posted on 07/06/2009 9:26:30 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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