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Chinese baby girls sold for adoption(extra baby seized for failure to pay fine)
UPI ^ | 07/02/09

Posted on 07/04/2009 7:26:46 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Chinese baby girls sold for adoption

Published: July 2, 2009 at 11:55 PM

As many as 80 newborn baby girls from China's southwest Guizhou Province were sold for adoption by foreign parents since 2001, a newspaper probe found.

China Daily, quoting the Southern Metropolis News, said the babies were removed from their families by local officials in the province's Zhenyuan county. Most of them were handed over to foreign adoptive parents as orphans at a price of $3,000 each.

The report said one poor farming couple, who are among the affected 80 families, had to hand over their fifth baby, a girl, to local family planning officials because they couldn't pay the appropriate fine under China's two-child policy.

The report said the husband, like other fathers in the county, wanted and got a boy after three girls. The fifth baby was again a girl as the family struggled to support all five on an annual income of about $732.

(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adoption; china; fine; twochildpolicy
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To: Gondring

Gondring, if every child is a tax exemption, including yourself as a child, I don’t see that unfairness. Rich, poor, any race, any disability, any birth order - each one is an exemption? Then I see that as fair.

I don’t see the income tax as fair, to be clear. But taking a fair exemption should not be ridiculed.

I am in about a 22% tax bracket. Should I pay 33% by your theory?

We are going to have at least $4,000 in medical deductions this year. Should I not take them, to be fair?


21 posted on 07/04/2009 8:31:10 AM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: Gondring

If you don’t like your tax bill then freakin’ figure out exemptions or deductions for yourself. Taxes as they are applied are NOT patriotic anyway.
I guarantee you I am FAR more patriotic and conservative than your bitter self will ever be. Your little attack on me personally is ridiculously uncalled for as you do not know me or my family and the facts that we donate 20% of our income to charities and our Church or the fact that our taxes are itemized and our bigger refund is from that and not our exemptions.
Think before you open your self-righteous yap next time, got it.


22 posted on 07/04/2009 8:38:46 AM PDT by mkcc30 ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: mckenzie7
My daughter came from China in 2002 and price was $3,000 along with many other fees. She is now 7 going on 40 and "oh my" the drama in the lives of little girls.

It breaks my heart to think of her in the orphanage, no family and prospects for a poor life. We visited the place one day and there were so many girls there, that you wanted to throw one under each arm and bring them home.

23 posted on 07/04/2009 8:42:09 AM PDT by Taylor42
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To: Taylor42
Congratulations on your little daughter!

I remember seeing a special on TV where little abandoned babies were kept in an orphanage, with a minimum of human interaction. It was so sad!

I applaud you for your humanity and may God continue to bless you and your family!

24 posted on 07/04/2009 8:46:06 AM PDT by mckenzie7 (TOTUS = PONZI)
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To: Taylor42
My daughter came from China in 2002 and price was $3,000......

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Very disturbing choice of words.

25 posted on 07/04/2009 8:53:21 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911
You are critical of her/his choice of words when they speak the truth. You would prefer euphemisms?
26 posted on 07/04/2009 8:55:24 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: wtc911

I agree. Babies don’t have a price. As an adoptive mother myself, I paid fees for various services, but I didn’t “buy” my children for a price.


27 posted on 07/04/2009 8:56:38 AM PDT by Texas_shutterbug (e)
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To: ladyjane

I am critical of the ‘parent’ viewing the child as a purchase with a price tag.


28 posted on 07/04/2009 8:57:58 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Texas_shutterbug
As an adoptive mother myself, I paid fees for various services, but I didn’t “buy” my children for a price.

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Exactly.

29 posted on 07/04/2009 8:58:58 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Gondring

What are you saying? Are you criticizing those who have children? Sure sounds like it.


30 posted on 07/04/2009 9:00:05 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: wtc911; Taylor42

I don’t think it’s a “very disturbing choice of words” at all.

The cost of bringing the baby “home” was $3,000.

Get over your holier-than-thou antagonism toward adoption.

FWIW, the adoption process brings out the crappiest jerks in the world, worse than used car salesmen. The bureaucrats and lawyers who prolong the process so they can profit are absolutely jerks who I pray will end up in hell.

And, yes, money is expended to bring the child home. That is a tragedy, but that is the fact of the matter.


31 posted on 07/04/2009 9:03:02 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Gondring

Thanks to Wilson and a few traitor american congressmen.


32 posted on 07/04/2009 9:03:44 AM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: Theo
Get over your holier-than-thou antagonism toward adoption

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Antagonism toward adoption? You assume too much.

33 posted on 07/04/2009 9:24:42 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Taylor42

Ah, just ignore those self-righteous wordsmiths who want to jump in your face for even talking about adoption fees being equated with “buying” a child. They rank right down there with the “Why didn’t you adopt in America” crowd- which have usually adopted no one, no where

People who give birth pay the doctor and hospital for their services, we paid the adoption agency.

BTW, We brought home two (both from Russia, one is half Chinese)- we did throw an extra one under our arms but still have photos and sadness from those left behind

Mazel Tov


34 posted on 07/04/2009 10:13:13 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: wtc911
Get over it.

The adoption process was full of fees and other assorted charges. When I picked her up from the orphanage it was understood that there would be a $3000 fee. They wanted crisp new $100 bills. The fee was to cover the costs the government had paid for her care to that time.

Yeah, right!

I don't know where the money when, but I don't think it went to the care of the girls.

If you choose to think of it as "buying" a little girl then mores the pity for you!

35 posted on 07/04/2009 10:15:40 AM PDT by Taylor42
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To: mkcc30

Attack? I evidently misunderstood your reply. I thought you were saying you were not taking advantage of government rewards for having more children.


36 posted on 07/04/2009 10:27:10 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Theo; mkcc30; Marie2; mckenzie7
What are you saying? Are you criticizing those who have children? Sure sounds like it.

Where do you get that idea?

I'm criticizing a governmental system that is allowed to fine you for not acting the way it wants, even if both paths are legal. That's merely a disguised version of tyrrany.

Don't believe it? Think it's hyperbole? Consider the following...

Take two couples with identical incomes, and one has a child. The other couple, whether from life choice or infertility or whatever, will be penalized and have to pay higher taxes than the other.

If they try to be treated equitably and pay the same rate as the other couple, they can be imprisoned at gunpoint.

How is that not the government directing personal decisions at gunpoint? And will you support it if (or when) Congress and Obama pass a bill saying that your taxes will be higher than those who choose to "attend training sessions on the importance of community involvement" because they get a "deduction" for their activity?

The point is not that FReepers should not take these deductions--the point is that FReepers should be fighting against their very existence. That includes the whole "itemization" scam, too.

37 posted on 07/04/2009 10:29:34 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Marie2

Thank you for your polite reply.

I hope that my explanation I already pinged you on has answered the questions, but if not, please let me know.


38 posted on 07/04/2009 10:34:52 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Taylor42
Congratulations on your decision to adopt. We adopted 3 babies but it was before Roe v Wade when it was easier to do.
39 posted on 07/04/2009 10:38:03 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: VicVega

Ronald W. Reagan
George W. Bush

Who woulda guessed that the “Wilson” would be the former?


40 posted on 07/04/2009 11:24:24 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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