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Let's Not Celebrate July 4th
Publius Forum ^ | 07/03/09 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 07/03/2009 7:24:33 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus

It is well known that John Adams had imagined that July second would be the day that future generations of Americans would remember as their day of independence from England, the nation's birthday, if you will. It was, after all, on the second that it was proclaimed "(T)hat these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States, that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is, and ought to be, totally dissolved."

But it was two days later that those gathered in defiance to the King declared a "Declaration of Independency" thereby adopting the famed document that carefully delineated the natural rights by which they claimed independence followed by a list of grievances that would explain why they invoked those rights.

So what are we celebrating? Is it our birth as a nation or are we celebrating the document of Independence? Early celebrations were mixed and a bit confused on that point. Additionally, celebrations on July fourth weren't that common for a time after the Revolution was over. At first, not many felt a need to celebrate something that had happened and was over. It was time to move on from war in many American's eyes...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: history; ndependence; nutjobtalking
Why DO we call it "July Fourth," instead of the more preferable "Independence Day"?

(By the way, sometimes the server for this link gets overloaded. If you get a dead link, just try again in about 20 minutes.)

1 posted on 07/03/2009 7:24:33 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

It’s splitting hairs.


2 posted on 07/03/2009 7:45:23 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Why do I celebrate? This year I refuse to let even BHO diminish my love for the greatest nation on earth.

Though I really would welcome any Obama supporter to show me ANY proof that he loves America at all.

A quote by Terrell Owens comes to mind and it fits BHO:

"I LOVE ME SOME ME"!

3 posted on 07/03/2009 7:46:44 AM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

The worldly powers (minions of the devil) work continually and tirelessly to shape the world against our religious foundations. They blend, pervert ,frame most all information ... all the time.

Always has bee that way ... will be that way until the second coming of Christ.


4 posted on 07/03/2009 7:48:28 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

“The Forth Day of July 1776 will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America . - I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival.” John Adams


5 posted on 07/03/2009 7:54:13 AM PDT by 386wt (Clinging to my clunker here in Ruralville...)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

“Independence Day” has morphed into the “4th of July” for the same reason that “Christmas” has morphed into “The Holidays”. Political correctness in order to avoid offending anyone.


6 posted on 07/03/2009 8:01:01 AM PDT by Bean Counter ( Shovel ready...)
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To: geologist

Religion is the root of evil. One recent example in Iran: http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-274670


7 posted on 07/03/2009 8:16:42 AM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

We don’t have to call it July Fourth. In fact, we don’t have to celebrate it July Fourth. We could celebrate it the first Monday in July, like we celebrate Labor Day the first Monday in September. I don’t think very many people would be in favor of changing it, though. July Fourth, or the Fourth of July, or even simply the Fourth have become synonymous with Independence Day.


8 posted on 07/03/2009 8:20:17 AM PDT by rwa265 (Christ my Cornerstone)
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To: balls

Depends on the definition:
James 1:26,27
OR
The Al-Gore/Global-Warming cult style religion.


9 posted on 07/03/2009 8:31:31 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: balls

The world is in a war ... good vs evil ...

did you notice that ‘evil’ is ‘live’ turned backward on itself?

Which describes it perfectly.


10 posted on 07/03/2009 9:03:05 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Depends on the definition: James 1:26,27 OR The Al-Gore/Global-Warming cult style religion

As today's WSJ shows, both definitions are, effectively, the same:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124657726311989209.html

11 posted on 07/03/2009 9:38:54 AM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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To: geologist

But that is only in the english language.


12 posted on 07/03/2009 9:42:53 AM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

So the Left wins. What a stupid idea.


13 posted on 07/03/2009 9:45:13 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Like most summer-ish holidays by and large we celebrate an excuse to eat grilled food and drink beer. Which is probably a bad thing, but that’s how it goes.


14 posted on 07/03/2009 9:45:31 AM PDT by discostu (Tommy can you hear me)
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To: balls
LOL! Right you are. Still it is an interesting clue to our reality.
15 posted on 07/03/2009 9:46:53 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: balls

I would disagree, the James definition has a clear directive to take care of those that cannot take care of themselves (widows and orphans); it is not a holier-than-thou or unempathetic or unreasoning position at all.

IOW, the James definition is personal and practical; you yourself have to “get off your ass” and DO something to [directly] impact... not forcing something down throats.


16 posted on 07/03/2009 10:50:40 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Deb

Next time read the link before bloviating.


17 posted on 07/03/2009 9:13:41 PM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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