Posted on 07/01/2009 7:10:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
The TEA Party movement is about kicking out the two-faced lying politicians who think more about gaining power than they do about defending our Liberty. Romney is just one more lying two-faced whore of a politician. Don't fall for his slick willie routine. He's a statist in love with socialism and government power.
Don't make me start posting the videos and transcripts of his abortionist/socialist record. I have them archived and FR will be wall-to-wall Truth About Romney if he gets anywhere close to running for president.
He needs to GET LOST!!
DONT TREAD ON ME!!
....As you continue to speak with half truths with your bitter tongue!
You cannot change the Message CC...
LDS Prophets warn us of the dangers facing America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehD390q9G3k
The messages from your sect are just like the messages we get from Romney - all over the place.
The LDS Church is a shifty as the blowing sands and will say and do whatever is politically expedient at the time. They are wishy washy on abortion. They changed their stance on polygamy and racism when they were pressured to do so by political means. Watch and see. If forced to do so, they will even change their position on gay marriage. They are conservative in morality - but definitely NOT conservative in matters of personal free will. Oooops I WONDER where Romney gets it?
America is indeed faced with dangerous times. Any conservative can see it. Your prophet is only declaring what is in plain sight - not much of a prophet at all, when even I (who is a bitter apostate by your standard) can see the perils we face!
Sadly we cant defeat somebody with nobody and FNC was supportive of McCain and TARP and amnesty (except Cavuto) and will promote Romney.
In 1844 the Council of Fifty decided to run Joseph Smith for the presidency of the United States. Klaus J. Hansen said that "the Council of Fifty, while seriously contemplating the possibility of emigration, also considered a rather spectacular alternative, namely, to run its leader for the presidency of the United States in the campaign of 1844.... Smith and the Council of Fifty seems to have taken the election quite seriously, much more so, indeed, than both Mormons and anti-Mormons have heretofore suspected" (Quest for Empire, p.74).
The elders of the church were actually called to electioneer for Joseph Smith. At a special meeting of the elders on April 9, 1844, Brigham Young declared: "It is now time to have a President of the United States. Elders will be sent to preach the Gospel and electioneer" (History of the Church, vol. 6, p.322). At the same meeting Heber C. Kimball affirmed: "... we design to send Elders to all the different States to get up meetings and protracted meetings, and electioneer for Joseph to be the next President" (Ibid., p.325). Mormon writer John J. Stewart refers to those who were sent to campaign as a "vast force of political missionaries" (Joseph Smith the Mormon Prophet, p.209).
Under the date of January 29, 1844, this statement is attributed to Joseph Smith in the History of the Church, "If you attempt to accomplish this, you must send every man in the city who is able to speak in public throughout the land to electioneer.... There is oratory enough in the Church to carry me into the presidential chair the first slide" (vol. 6, p.188).
On March 7, 1844, Joseph Smith was reported to have said: "When I get hold of the Eastern papers, and see how popular I am, I am afraid myself that I shall be elected..." (History of the Church, vol. 6, p.243).
The fact that Joseph Smith would allow himself to be crowned king shows that he was driven by the idea of gaining power. It is very possible that Smith seriously believed that he would become president and that he would rule as king over the people of the United States. The attempt by Joseph Smith to become president seems to have been a treasonous plot to bring the United States Government under the rule of the priesthood. Klaus J. Hansen observed: "But what if, through a bold stroke, he could capture the United States for the Kingdom? The Council of Fifty thought there might be a chance and nominated the Mormon prophet for the Presidency of the United States" (Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Autumn 1966, p.67).
George Miller, who had been a member of the Council of Fifty, recorded in a letter dated June 28, 1855:
It was further determined in Council that all the elders should set out on missions to all the States to get up an electorial [sic] ticket, and do everything in our power to have Joseph elected president. If we succeeded in making a majority of the voters converts to our faith, and elected Joseph president, in such an event the dominion of the Kingdom would be forever established in the United States; and if not successful, we could fall back on Texas, and be a kingdom notwithstanding (Letter by George Miller, as quoted in Joseph Smith and World Government, by Hyrum Andrus, 1963, p.54).
Instead of going to Texas the Mormons settled in the Great Salt Lake valley. Hyrum Andrus admits that Smith had even "considered the alternative of establishing the Saints in the capacity of an independent nation, should all other alternatives fail" (Ibid., p.60).
Before the election Joseph Smith was assassinated. Thus he was unable to establish the kingdom he had planned.
Some present-day mormons have the hope that Mitt Romney will fulfill the aims of Joseph Smith "If we succeeded in making a majority of the voters converts to our faith, and elected Joseph president, in such an event the dominion of the Kingdom would be forever established in the United States">
NOTE: LDS church sources are quoted.
AND the religion angle on this thread has been amplified, by a mormon from a single early post.
Another who left the Church...
I say Truth wil stand on its own mertin no matter how much the opposition piles on it is a pattern just like what the opposition did to America to drag it down to where we are to day but Godly people have discenrment and will see through the all the canards and disimformation!
I am sour on Romney too but have a negative outlook because I despised Mccain and yet heard Hannity rally him as the next Reagan last Fall. Even Levin rallied calling him a patriot. We really need someone like DeMint to get more name recognition for himself. BTW: Hannity promoted Steel for RNC like he worshiped McCain. You see DeMint on Beck and Cavuto but not Hannity.
BTW: Phrase ‘I voted for Palin not McCain’, I hear this all the time here and it makes no sense at all.
mertin?
Hannity also loved Rudy. So it goes...
mertin?
Thank you
To Clarify
I say Truth wil stand on its own merit and no matter
It means that McCain was doomed, and the down ticket was doomed because conservatives were so discouraged and disgusted that many would not bother to go to the polls, fund raising was weak, crowds were small, enthusiasm nonexistent and then suddenly McCain made the bold decision to choose Governor Palin.
Palin exploded on the scene and turned the race around, suddenly fund raising increased, and massive crowds started showing up, after a damp, grey, primary full of Romney and McCain a new conservative champion had emerged from Alaska, Governor Palin could not drag McCain across the finish line but she did succeed in firing up the base and getting many conservatives to "vote for Palin, not McCain" which saved us from a total wipe out and saved some lower offices down the ticket.
Turnout is a serious issue and Romney does not inspire people to "turnout" instead he leaves the base uninspired and unenthusiastic.
Totally on board, JR. RINO Flip and his flaks are a cancer on the GOP and must either accept the fact that their guy is NEVER going to be elected president, or get the h#ll out.
Who benefits most from Sanford meltdown? Californian (that's right) Mitt Romney
"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"
"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"
"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"
"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"
"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"
Poor sport spoiler Romney doing what he does best:
Novak: "Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign"
"A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs
which must not be compromised to political expediency
or simply to swell its numbers."
-- President Ronald Reagan
"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party
over to the traitors in the battle just ended.
We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged
to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support.
Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates
wouldnt make any sense at all.""
-- President Ronald Reagan
There you go, lying about Mitt by using all your facts again...
Wait...
To put it in a more positive way, you could also say that no politician stands for more things in more ways than Mitt Romney.
Mitt Romney shares his passions.
MITT ROMNEY: I am more convinced than ever before that as we seek to establish full equality for Americas gay and lesbian citizens, I will provide more effective leadership than my opponent.
I am not unaware of my opponents considerable record in the area of civil rights, or the commitment of Massachusetts voters to the principle of equality for all Americans. For some voters it might be enough for me to simply match my opponents record in this area. But I believe we can and must do better. If we are to achieve the goals we share, we must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern. My opponent cannot do this. I can and will.
One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clintons dont ask, dont tell, dont pursue military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nations military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.
Why do you quote Malcolm X?
"If we don't stand for something, we may fall for anything."
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