Latest on the Obama Birth Certificate eBay Auction is Scratched

eBay messages | 6/30 | self

[woofie]

This is the latest messaging I have had with the seller on eBay

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Dear colmado_naranja,

I see the auction has been pulled (again), also I got a bunch of warnings that you might be trying to get my account info etc.

I sure hope you are legit or at least not trying to cause harm

If you can tell me anything about what is going on I'd appreciate it

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Dear ____

Hi. Don't worry, I'm not a scammer. You can check with other eBayers that have made posts all over the internet in support of me and that eBay is now to the point that they will say anything to cancel my auctions.

There will be no more auctions for Obama?s b.c., but this may interest you. Ebay item # 160345795373. ?Autographed photo of Smith and Andylenny abroad.?

Again you?ll have to search by listing number for the first several hours until the title becomes searchable.

I'm turning the b.c. over to WorldNetDaily and Joseph Farah. Thanks for your support. You are appreciated.

- colmado_naranja

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I had recieved this from eBay earlier:

Hello ______________

Our records show that you recently received an email from colmado_naranja through the Ask Seller a Question or Contact eBay Member features. This email may be fraudulent and an attempt to do one of the following:

- Obtain your eBay password - Gain access to your eBay account - Use your eBay account for fraudulent activity - Set up an outside-of-eBay transaction which may be fraudulent

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[Star Traveler]

You said — I believe Obama is hiding something; what I don’t know; so we shall see. I don’t think it is a tinfoil conspiracy to believe he is hiding something.

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Well, I’ve posted here on Free Republic, before the election, on many posts that he was obviously hiding something. But, after the election, I saw that this didn’t make any difference in the election itself.

So, at that point, I then said that the various states had to pass laws requiring documentation before someone could be put on the ballot, as the methodology to find out what was being hidden.

That’s my solution for finding out what it is.

[freekitty]

Hope it gets solved.

[STARWISE]

OK .. looking much longer and more closely,
at InspectorSmith’s Channel, I now DO see
what you’re both saying. Duh

It shows 0 uploads .. so that’s in sync with
what he’s said.

Lots of rap/soul music videos there.

[Star Traveler]

You said — Nope. It eliminates this source as credible. Has no bearing on the issue of the BC.

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Well, if you’ve been reading my posts, you’ll see that I’ve said that. I’ve said that WorldNetDaily is the *best place* one could ever hope for something like this going to.

And WorldNetDaily has been the *one news source* that has been all over this issue from the beginning. I support WorldNetDaily and I would hope that everyone else does, too...

[Star Traveler]

You said — Hope it gets solved.

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Well, me too. But, the big problem that I saw with the methodology that a lot of posters were depending on, before (you know the courts and lawsuits and the Electoral College and being verified by Congress and so on) was not getting anywhere. And in all this time, up to now, it hasn’t gotten anywhere.

But, I could see that months ago, and that’s why I said the best bet was doing the state laws requiring it. We’ve only got just a short time to enact those state laws. There is still time, and Oklahoma tried but it failed this time. I’m hoping they try again the next legislative session.

Now, Arizona and Missouri tried it too, but I don’t know what happened there.

Otherwise, if this is not done with state laws requiring the documentation, we may end up with Obama, just like we did with the 21st President of the United States, who was not qualified per the Constitution, to hold office — Chester A. Arthur.

He destroyed all evidence and records relating to anyone being able to find out if he was qualified or not. But, years later, documents were found that showed him to not be qualified. I would hate to think that years later, we’ll find out that Obama was not qualified.

[Lexinom]

Only when they’re out of power.

[freekitty]

Obama will be caught up with sooner or later; bc or no bc. What goes around comes around and I have never seen it fail. And he can’t do anything about it; except wonder when it will happen.

[Star Traveler]

You said — You have personally created about fifty ST posts on this thread. Why not follow your own advice? Don’t feed the trolls.

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Aside from the “troll label” which I disagree with... I do agree with the rest of what you said, in terms of his posting behavior.

AND..., I’ve said the *exact same thing* myself — directly — to these posters. I’ve pretty much said that I don’t usually comment to people (very much... LOL...) — except — when they start posting to me. When that happens, I’ll pretty much reply to *everything* that they say to me.

SO..., I’ve given them the perfect way to keep things calm, which is simply to not stir the pot and start a whole mess of posting with me... LOL...

But, they keep ignoring that advice, so what can I say? :-)

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Now, mind you, I will jump in and post to selected ones and say something about a topic on a thread, but that’s usually where it stops with me. Where the *massive amounts of posts* come from, is when someone else starts stirring the pot with me.

So, you *do indeed* have very good advice. I hope others take that advice... :-)

[freekitty]

Personally, I hope he and others go to jail. There is certainly enough to indite and convict them and please no it won’t happen. Never say never.

If we would actually prosecute people like Barney Frank, etc; we might get something done.

[Star Traveler]

Well, mojitojoe said — Seriously, if you think I’m ST, feel free to inquire and ask JR. If you think that, then I would say as far as dim bulbs, I’m a 75 watt and you’re a 40 watt. Anymore questions smartass?

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Well, I kinda suspect he might be Star Traveler, too... LOL..., (you 40-watter...)

But, me having said that kinda works in his favor for his denial, then, doesn’t it... :-)

[ but actually, he’s more like a “Star Traveler wannabe” than anything else...]

[Star Traveler]

You said — Feel free to clear up my fog .. LOL.

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Well, this is precisely the kind of “fog” that ole “chief editor Korir” at API (African Press International) created when he tried to promote his (false) story on the Michelle Obama phone tape that he was releasing to Fox News for them to announce to the world before the elections.

He kept that going all the way until Obama’s inauguration... LOL... with his “fog”....

[Star Traveler]

Well, I do agree that it will finally come out, one way or another. However, it’s my hope that it’s *before* this next Presidential election and not when he’s building his Presidential library, doncha know...

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

I am not a fan of WND. Don't ask me why...the reason is somewhere back my old posts and I am too lazy to put much brain power into it.

I try to keep an open mind about most issues which means I will not discount issues such as the BC (or “dissertation”) being auctioned on EBay.

If (I stress ‘IF’) the name in the copy of the picture auction is correct, the quick research I have done leads me to believe it is a hoax designed to yank our chains. I am not as inclined to give it the benefit of the doubt that I gave it yesterday.

Another random thought based on nothing but my own imagination: In addition to Rent-a-Mob can ACORN Rent-an-EBay-hoax?

[Star Traveler]

Well, even in the case it’s a hoax, WorldNetDaily is the place that it’s best to go to, also — because they will expose the hoax and not make it detract from the issue that they’ve been hammering away on, which is Obama’s birth certificate.

I mean, would you rather CNN expose this as a hoax, or the New York Times expose this as a hoax? I hope you see what I mean... :-)

[freekitty]

Oh it will come out and he will be lucky if he doesn’t go to jail.

[Star Traveler]

You said — Oh it will come out and he will be lucky if he doesn’t go to jail.

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Ummm..., didn’t Nixon get some kind of pardon from Ford? And..., what was the reasoning of Ford for doing so?

I think you can get the picture here...

[freekitty]

Look, it’s time to start prosecuting and sending to jail. The more they get away with it; the more they will do.

They need to go to jail.

[Star Traveler]

You said — They need to go to jail.

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I would agree, too, that people need to go to jail for crimes.

But, let me point out something, and it was in the news just recently in Oklahoma. There was some child molester that got a drastically reduced sentence for his crime on a plea bargain arrangement. And people were outraged over it — outraged with the judge, with the DA, with the lawyers and so on.

So, why did he get that drastically reduced sentence. Well, very simply because everyone agreed (who was involved in it legally) that they couldn’t really *prove* the case to a jury and thus he had a pretty good chance of getting off. Thus, they plea bargained it down to what it was. Others said that they should have gone ahead and took it to jury, even if they didn’t have evidence and let the jurors convict him anyway... LOL...

Well, if I were a juror, I would *not convict* anyone without solid evidence and without evidence that put the whole case *beyond a reasonable doubt*...

AND THUS, that’s the problem you’re going to have. Or to say it another way, I say *Yes* convict the devils — but “the devil is in the details” (of being able to successfully prosecute someone beyond a reasonable doubt)...

And it *should be that way* — because I don’t want *anyone* prosecuting me, and convicting me, beyond a reasonable doubt, either.

[freekitty]

It’s been proven time and time again about some of the elected officials being guilty. They need to be prosecuted; not favored.