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Michael Jackson: No Groundbreaking Genius
Pajamas Media ^ | July 29 | Carol Gould

Posted on 06/30/2009 8:52:45 AM PDT by AJKauf

Am I the only person in the world not moved by or concerned with the death of Michael Jackson? Like all bereavements my heart goes out to his family and close friends.

But — a “genius”? “The greatest entertainer of all time”?

Why am I writing this article at all?

I believe it is important, especially for the young, to understand the true meaning of greatness and to appreciate the real essence of “genius.” This may sound like a sacrilege but, as I write, millions of youngsters are breakdancing to Jackson tunes and evidently thinking this is the be-all and end-all of life’s expectations. If I had a young child now I would want him or her to read books, go to orchestra concerts, and be exposed to selective media under my — and my partner’s — supervision. Whether or not the stars I am about to venerate grew up in such a rarefied atmosphere is debatable, but after hearing Al Sharpton’s pronouncements I would like to reflect on what true greatness entails.

The Rev. Sharpton said this week that Michael Jackson broke down a barrier: he made it acceptable for black entertainers to rise to the top in a white world. What is Al Sharpton talking about? ..

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To: TChris

Guilty as charged.


141 posted on 06/30/2009 11:03:10 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: ridesthemiles

Nice List! ...and EVERY ONE more talented than Michael Jackson.

I have always liked Etta James’ voice.


142 posted on 06/30/2009 11:03:31 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I’m not surprised you completely missed the point of my post. Or you just chose to ignore it. Either way, I got my answer about your opinions.


143 posted on 06/30/2009 11:03:49 AM PDT by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: Alberta's Child

Another one was the “All in the Family” vehicles.

In the Cosby case, it was the producers that wanted to make the turn (LA libs). They thought the exceptional ratings was a mandate for social activism instead of just a reflection of how entertaining the show was.

An early example of “Shut up and sing!” heard at most Bono and Ditzy Chix concerts.


144 posted on 06/30/2009 11:05:20 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: jennyjenny

Oh, no doubt that “Thriller” is the single most greatest selling album of all time, but considering the amount of time he was an entertainer, and all the hype that people give him, he should have been in the top three sellers of all time. I am just saying that I do not think he is the greatest of all time.

As far as voice and singing ability, I would take Freddie Mercury over Michael Jackson every single time! He had range, he had control and he could be smooth or he could belt it out! THAT was a talented singer, but still neither could nor should they be considered the greatest of all time.


145 posted on 06/30/2009 11:06:03 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (For whatsoe'ver their sufferings were before; that change they covet makes them suffer more. -Dryden)
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To: blowfish
If Michael Jackson had been a republican the same people would be praising him to the stars...

Maybe Republicans would, but conservatives wouldn't.

146 posted on 06/30/2009 11:06:04 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Interesting. I didn’t watch the show regularly (saw most episodes in reruns), so I guess I’m not sure when exactly the show turned from “entertainment” to “social activism.”


147 posted on 06/30/2009 11:09:21 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (God is great . . . beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: dfwgator
And Duke Ellington, Ella Fitzgerald, even Leadbelly and all the greats of New Orleans, St. Louis and Chicago.
148 posted on 06/30/2009 11:11:24 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: AJKauf
The Rev. Sharpton said this week that Michael Jackson broke down a barrier: he made it acceptable for black entertainers to rise to the top in a white world.



Genius!
149 posted on 06/30/2009 11:11:54 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: GOPJ
Sharpton is talking about jumping on any vehicle that has a camera at one end and will accept his "quotes" at the other.

Exactly. I vaguely remember Sharpton calling James Brown "the greatest entertainer of all time" right after he died a few years back. ....and he was very close to the truth on that one. (I'd put JB in the top 10, and maybe 5).

Now he has the same words for Jacko. It's all about camera facetime and kissing up to "his people" for that guy.

150 posted on 06/30/2009 11:12:17 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: dfwgator
Over the Beatles?

That's a non-sequitur, but I'll bite.

I don't know where you were in 1967, or what you were paying attention to, but when Hendrix hit the scene, he basically shell-shocked the reigning Lords of Rock on every continent.

Later commentaries from most of rock's legendary performers (of the day) recount that they were in utter awe of the man. Eric Clapton said that he was so stunned by what Hendrix was doing, that he couldn't play guitar for a solid year after seeing him live.

I won't dispute that The Beatles may have maintained record sales exceeding Hendrix', but there's no doubt that he achieved an artistic breakthrough of monumental proportions, and his peers all gave him his due for it - including the members of the Fab Four.

151 posted on 06/30/2009 11:14:08 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I don’t disagree on that level, in fact, Hendrix played Sgt Pepper two days before it was even released, with Macca in the audience.

But if you asked the average person who the “King of Rock” was in 1967, most would have answered “The Beatles”.

But yes, Hendrix has had more of a long-term impact on music, because he was so far ahead of his time.


152 posted on 06/30/2009 11:17:09 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
...if you asked the average person who the “King of Rock” was in 1967, most would have answered “The Beatles”.

I didn't mean to indicate that Hendrix was crowned King upon his arrival on the scene. But, over the next four years of his life, his incredibly ground-breaking output solidified that position in most rock listener's minds.

It was very evident at the time of his passing. There just was no one else in the pantheon of rock greats that held a higher level of respect (and even reverence) at that time.

153 posted on 06/30/2009 11:23:09 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ridesthemiles
At the ages of both Joe and Katherine, why should they get control of those kids and the money?

Since he was not married at the time of his death, I'm gonna guess because they are the legal next-of-kin.

154 posted on 06/30/2009 11:23:20 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Gurn
Guru:
"...[Eddie Van Halen] probably the most overrated guitar player of all time..."


Blue Jays:
"...Which one of your bands has been pivotal in the rock music scene for 30+ years?..."


Guru
"...Off the top of my head, I'll go with the Stones, the Who, Led Zeppelin, Neil Young, Bob Dylan..."


Wow, you were a guitarist with the Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Neil Young, and Bob Dylan?
You were a truly prolific and world-famous guitarist after all.

155 posted on 06/30/2009 11:24:56 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Princess Diana


156 posted on 06/30/2009 11:27:28 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Princess Diana


157 posted on 06/30/2009 11:27:28 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: blowfish

Just for the record, I am a conservative, NOT a Republican.

I happen to totally disagree with the lifestyle that Freddie Mercury lived; however, I cannot deny that he was a very talented singer. A much better singer than MJ, I might add. I would hope that no one determines the greatest singer/entertainer/dancer of all time on their POLITICAL views!

And before you even mention it, I used my first amendment right to stop buying Ditzy Chix CDs because they exercised their first amendment right to complain about our President - IN ANOTHER COUNTRY! You don’t like him, say it here - don’t wait till you are overseas to start badmouthing him!

He is OUR President (of the United States), not everyone’s - something I wish this current loser would figure out!


158 posted on 06/30/2009 11:28:03 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (For whatsoe'ver their sufferings were before; that change they covet makes them suffer more. -Dryden)
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To: Blue Jays
I loved Glen Tipton and of course Screaming for Vengeance and Defenders of the faith my fav. I saw them them at MSG back in the 80’s. I would definitely love to see them again!
159 posted on 06/30/2009 11:29:26 AM PDT by angcat (FUBO)
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To: kalee
Princess Diana

Well, ya got me there. And even now I don't think that Michael Jackson has begun to approach her.

160 posted on 06/30/2009 11:30:22 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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