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Deficit forces California to issue IOUs
FT.com ^ | June 29, 2009 | Matthew Garrahan

Posted on 06/29/2009 3:28:58 PM PDT by Lou Budvis

California is preparing to issue IOUs to its creditors this week as it grapples with an unprecedented cash crunch and prepares to begin its new fiscal year deep in the red.

Once the US’s richest state, California now has the dubious distinction of having the worst credit rating in the country. ....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; bho44; budget; california; corruption; democrats; economy; iou; obama; statesrights; taxes
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Is the much bally-hooed day of finacial meltdown here at last? Here is what 0bamunism will bring to the rest of the US.
1 posted on 06/29/2009 3:28:58 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: Lou Budvis

Barney Franks to the Rescue Ping!


2 posted on 06/29/2009 3:29:26 PM PDT by cranked
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Deficit forces California to issue IOUs

What a coincidence...I was just preparing one for them for my property taxes...think they will take it?


3 posted on 06/29/2009 3:30:31 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: Lou Budvis

Aren’t people going to stop accepting the IOUs??? I wouldn’t take theme unless I had to...

The more people accept them, the more pressure there will be to turn them to cash. Will that increase pressure to raise taxes? Or reduce spending?... ...


4 posted on 06/29/2009 3:32:12 PM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: Lou Budvis

Who says states can’t print their own money?


5 posted on 06/29/2009 3:39:06 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Lou Budvis

Blue is a very expensive color.


6 posted on 06/29/2009 3:46:25 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Lou Budvis
Hey - is Arnold running for something? To wit:

“I will veto any majority vote tax increase bill that punishes taxpayers for Sacramento’s failure to live within its means”

7 posted on 06/29/2009 3:51:42 PM PDT by no-s
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To: Vince Ferrer

“Who says states can’t print their own money?”

I believe that may be covered by Article 1, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution. But there are probably a hundred laws by now that imply they can’t.


8 posted on 06/29/2009 3:53:21 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Lou Budvis

I have not gotten my tax rebate yet - do I get to collect interest?


9 posted on 06/29/2009 3:53:48 PM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: Lou Budvis

What are California’s creditors going to do with I.O.U.s, they can’t spend them, no one has to accept them from the creditors so they’re just stuck with them.


10 posted on 06/29/2009 4:15:49 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
If I get an IOU Tax rebate...can I use it to pay the property tax.....

..........and the converse....

11 posted on 06/29/2009 4:18:41 PM PDT by spokeshave (USA #1; Pirates -3...Voting them all out of office would be a sufficient pay cut)
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To: Lou Budvis
The state intercepts and confiscates all child and spousal support payments from the non-custodial parent. By law, both federal and state, they are to transfer that money to the custodial parent within two days. There is $600,000,000 in the revolving fund. They are late with their payments.
12 posted on 06/29/2009 4:19:11 PM PDT by Excellence (Meet your new mother-in-law — the United States Government)
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To: Tublecane
"...The impact on contractors was minimized because a majority of financial institutions were willing to pay cash for registered warrants at their full face value upon presentation. (The banks, in turn, were entitled to interest at an annual rate of 5% when they were able to redeem the warrants in September 1992, when the Governor signed the budget.)"

From Client Alert

If these are nogotiable bearer IOUs, then it seems these warrents can be used as money.

13 posted on 06/29/2009 4:29:07 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Lou Budvis
Ever since I can remember it's been "As California goes so goes the Nation."

At least Washington won't have to issue IOUs.. they can just print the money should the unlikely need arises!

Wot? They've already started printing the money? . . . .

14 posted on 06/29/2009 4:57:00 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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RE: "these warrents can be used as money."

Several years ago I remember a similar event here. Banks credited depositors as though their paychecks were being deposited.

At that time it was a matter less serious than it is now, the state had the money but temporarily could not make payouts.

15 posted on 06/29/2009 5:04:08 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Lou Budvis; Principled; Vince Ferrer; Tublecane

It is legal for the States, cities, or even private individuals to print ‘Scrip’, which is an “alternative” or “complementary” currency, but importantly, is NOT “legal tender”. Some major US cities did this during the Great Depression, and it helped out the local economy a lot.

In our current depression, Scrip would be a major help if there is deflation, inflation, or instability in the US dollar (USD). It does a lot of things, like keeping local and State government and retail markets running.

While it is NOT backed by gold or silver (which was a recent problem with the Liberty Dollar), Scrip is a very controlled currency. It has a fixed value, and some types will lose 2% of its value every month, to discourage hoarding. Accompanied by price controls by those retailers who accept it, it is a super stable currency. Issuers can recall Scrip at any time.

When a State would issue Scrip, it does not have to be made with high security paper and ink, like USD, because it can have a data matrix bar code printed on it, is associated with whoever “owns” it, and has to be electronically re-registered when transferred.

This is a lot more intrusive than USD, but it makes Scrip much harder to use for the black market, and insures that all taxes are paid.

Scrip encourages the use of locally produced goods and services, while at the same time, when people buy Scrip with USD, it concentrates USD at the State level, so the State can “buy in bulk” goods and services not produced in that State. Things such as pharmaceuticals can then be distributed for purchase with Scrip.

Within the Scrip region, its use also takes pressure off the USD, and helps to stabilize it. Consumers can still use both, and it allows them to set aside their USD to purchase things that can only be purchased with USD.

A note about legal tender. Legal tender is a very important concept, and it *only* applies to physical, printed, paper USD. You might have $1M in the bank, but not a bit of it is legal tender until it is converted to paper money, which is in your hand.

Legal tender *must* be accepted for ALL debts, private and public. This means if you buy something in the store, the store *must* take payment in printed cash, even if it rejects credit and debit cards, checks, Scrip, or any other electronic means of money transfer.

Nobody *has* to sell anyone, anything, of course, so the sale and the debt must be made first.

But right now, California is using a basic form of Scrip, that it calls “IOUs”, and the rest of us, and our State governments, need to become very familiar with the concept. It could take a lot of the edge off the depression, if things get really bad.


16 posted on 06/29/2009 5:18:15 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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.... Here is what 0bamunism will bring to the rest of the US.

Bingo!!!

17 posted on 06/29/2009 5:21:59 PM PDT by Ron H. (I believe in and practice the 4 Gs : God, Guns a Garden and Gold,)
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To: Principled

You could buy the warrants for pennies on the dollar and wait for California to redeem them. If I had more cash (daughter getting married this month) I would do that.


18 posted on 06/29/2009 5:33:05 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Lou Budvis

When do I get real money for my Schwarzenegger bucks?


19 posted on 06/29/2009 5:34:38 PM PDT by dennisw ("stealth tribal warfare" is what the Sotomayor nomination is about)
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When do I get real money for my Schwarzenegger bucks?

What Are Registered Warrants, a.k.a. IOUs?

Registered warrants are promises to pay that are issued by the State Controller's Office, stamped “registered” and endorsed on the back by the State Treasurer as “not paid for want of funds.” Gov. Code § 17270. Under the Government Code, registered warrants are legal investments for funds of all banks and are negotiable instruments. Id. §§ 17202-17205. Registered warrants bear interest at a rate fixed by California law from the date of registration to the date of maturity, or, if they bear no date of maturity, the date upon which the California Treasurer advertises that they are payable upon presentation. Id. §§ 17212, 17275-17276. The maximum interest is five percent per year. Id. § 17.222. In this sense, they are akin to involuntary bonds: the recipient is compelled to invest in the State, and the State is legally obligated to pay the recipient with a specified rate of return.

The 2009 warrants will carry the maximum permissible interest and will mature in October 2009

20 posted on 06/29/2009 5:55:52 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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