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Reichert Issues Reasoning for Economy Killer Cap and Tax Vote
NW Bloggers ^ | 6/27/2009 | Aurelius

Posted on 06/29/2009 12:39:17 PM PDT by sionnsar

From the Seattle Times:

Washington, DC - Congressman Dave Reichert (WA-08) released the following statement today after the U.S. House passed the American Clean Energy and Security Act:

“Energy independence and our national security are critical issues for America. These issues transcend politics. The future of this country is on the line and we can spare no effort when it comes to  leading on these issues at a global level.

“This bill is not perfect, but it is a vital step toward energy independence. America cannot maintain global leadership without innovation and new ideas, and we cannot lead if we increasingly depend
on foreign nations to heat our homes and move people and goods. The price of inaction is too great; America cannot stand on the sidelines while our competitors embrace new energy efficient technologies. It’s also important that we engage in a bipartisan discussion as we move forward - this bill has many other hoops to jump through before it becomes law and I will continue to work with my colleagues across the aisle and in the Senate to gain more tax relief for middle-income families.

“Teddy Roosevelt was the true example of a Republican engaged in conserving resources for our children and grandchildren, but he also had the foresight to seek a brighter future for them. Republicans must be at the table as we look for solutions in energy independence and preserving our environment, while also looking at the bigger picture and working with all of our colleagues for a stronger nation.”

OK, breaking this down:

Energy independence and our national security are critical issues for America. These issues transcend politics. The future of this country is on the line and we can spare no effort when it comes to
leading on these issues at a global level.

So far so good.  I agree completely.  It’s of course the Democrat party that is playing Politics with this issue, by ramming it through with minimal debate, or even opportunity for the Representatives to read and digest the bill, with all of its last minute amendments, deals, and PLACEHOLDERS.  That’s right, PLACEHOLDERS.  They voted on a bill with a section that HASN’T EVEN BEEN WRITTEN YET.

Courtesy of Michelle Malkin

On the House floor this afternoon, Barney Frank explained the “placeholder” in the cap and trade bill that apparently will deal with regulations of financial derivatives market associated with reducing
carbon emissions.

I feel so much better that we have a PLACEHOLDER in a piece of legislation of this magnitude, controlled by one of the main players in the Sub-Prime Mortgage crises.

This point alone should have been a deal killer.

This bill is not perfect, but it is a vital step toward energy independence. America cannot maintain global leadership without innovation and new ideas, and we cannot lead if we increasingly depend
on foreign nations to heat our homes and move people and goods.

He is right, that this bill is NOT perfect.  It is far from perfect.  Nor will it be a vital step towards energy independence.  What it does is handicap american industry, at the very time that we should be trying to rehabilitate it; and kills more jobs than it will create.  Oh, and as an added bonus, it will greatly increase the cost of energy in the United States, while forcing oil refineries off shore, to nations with far more lax environmental laws.

Courtesy of Bloomberg:

The same amount of gasoline that would have $1 in carbon costs imposed if it were domestic would have 10 cents less added if it were imported, according to energy consulting firm Wood Mackenzie in Houston. Contrary to President Barack Obama’s goal of reducing dependence on overseas energy suppliers, the bill would incent U.S. refiners to import more fuel, said Clayton Mahaffey, an analyst at RedChip Cos. in Maitland, Florida.

So, there go America’s refinery jobs, and with the added bonus of being more dependent on foreign energy!

Back to Reichert:

The price of inaction is too great; America cannot stand on the sidelines while our competitors embrace new energy efficient technologies. It’s also important that we engage in a bipartisan discussion as we move forward - this bill has many other hoops to jump through before it becomes law and I will continue to work with my colleagues across the aisle and in the Senate to gain more tax relief for middle-income families.

We have two “alternative” energy sources available that we are ignoring:  Nuclear and Hydro-Electric.

In fact, according to the Washington Times;

Renewable energy accounts for about 8.5 percent of domestic electricity generation, but the House bill’s renewable mandate would not recognize all of that as renewable. Hydropower, for example, which makes up a large chunk of current electricity generation, is not all counted as renewable toward the new mandate.

So, it has the be the right kind (read: Politically Correct) form of energy…

And as far as “tax relief for middle income families” goes, the idea that more than a pittance of the Cap and Trade money will filter down to the consumer is laughable on it’s face.

Courtesy of Fox/Liz Peek:

A sober assessment of the government’s budget situation over the next decade would lead some to think that there is about as much chance of cap-and-trade revenues being recycled back to taxpayers as there is of Nancy Pelosi taking command of the CIA. The government is looking high and low for revenues to fund healthcare legislation and a slew of other programs; this torrent will be just too delicious to give up.

Remember the Social Security Lockbox?  Just how many times do our Representatives have to lie to us, before we wise up?

But I guess the part that really stings is when Reichert puts himself in the company of Teddy Roosevelt:

“Teddy Roosevelt was the true example of a Republican engaged in conserving resources for our children and grandchildren, but he also had the foresight to seek a brighter future for them. Republicans must be at the table as we look for solutions in energy independence and preserving our environment, while also looking at the bigger picture and working with all of our colleagues for a stronger nation.”

Now, I am a BIG fan of TR - I think he is the quintessential American President.  TR embodied the America of his time.

But TR was unable to curb his own political ambition, and his ill advised run for the Presidency against William Taft (on the Bull Moose party ticket, as he had failed to wrest the Republican nomination from Taft - who was his chosen successor), costing both the election, and allowing Woodrow Wilson to win, with only 42% of the vote.  We are still dealing with the fallout of the Wilson presidency, to this day.

So I guess there is some similarity to TR, after all.

The Republican’s had a far better alternative to the Cap and Tax Economy Killer bill, the American Energy Innovation Act, HR. 2828, which the Democrat Party killed in “Bipartisan” fashion…

The only question I have left for Reichert, not that I expect to ever find out the truth of the matter, is:  Did you vote for this bill out of personal conviction, or were you offered some kind of deal?

All I can say, for myself, is that I refuse to support anyone who puts American families and their well being second to passing what is a really bad piece of legislation, out of the misguided notion that something is better than nothing.

If Reichert (and just two or three other turncoats) had stood strong, they could have forced the Democrat dictators in the House to reconsider their definition of “Bipartisan”.

Thanks, Dave.  Hope you aren’t counting on my vote in 2010.

Maybe Obama is hiring for all the new bureaucracy he is creating…


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KEYWORDS: 111th; capandtrade; reichert; waxmanmarkey
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1 posted on 06/29/2009 12:39:18 PM PDT by sionnsar
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2 posted on 06/29/2009 12:39:57 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Neda Agha-Soltan - murdered by illegitimate government)
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To: sionnsar
A 300 page bill. None of which was on the Rep's desks nor in the floor Well at the time of voting.

Basic legislative process was not followed as the bill was not voted from committee before the vote (99% of the time is how things work).

Change we can beleive in.

Dave is no Jennifer Dunn.

3 posted on 06/29/2009 12:42:35 PM PDT by llevrok (A feral conservative in my own land.)
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To: sionnsar

I intend to do EVERYTHING (legal) that I can to unseat this traitorous bastard. I am incensed with his mealy-mouthed approach to representation.

A pox upon your house reichert!


4 posted on 06/29/2009 12:43:30 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: sionnsar

A submissive US, taxed and capped by a world authority will never lead anything and merely require elected or appointed compliance managers.


5 posted on 06/29/2009 12:43:51 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: sionnsar

Can we get a list of Earmarks he added to this “vital” tax increase?

Pray for America


6 posted on 06/29/2009 12:44:08 PM PDT by bray (Rope & Chains)
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To: sionnsar

I am dumbfounded that there are actually people out there that think the Republican party is somehow better than the democratic party.

Both parties are utterly corrupt to the core and I have no time for neither. When those that are left rebuild, I hope something better than the two party system comes out of the Phoenix.


7 posted on 06/29/2009 12:49:09 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: sionnsar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWLv4XOy5co

Interview with Sen Inhofe R-OK. Discusses the EPA cover-up of Global Warming study.

Inhofe says the Cap & Trade bill will not pass the Senate, that it’s, “Dead on arrival.”


8 posted on 06/29/2009 12:50:05 PM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: sionnsar

With amendments 900 pages of an unread “Cap” bill includes an EPA person must approve your house according to the “Cap” regulations before you sell it?

Remember the local and state building regulations that you have worked under if you are a builder. As New Yorkers would say, Forgetaboutit…

The new legislation that passed through the House Friday night, unread by any of the Congress people, had inserted into the bill a new NATIONAL BUILDING CODE. You heard me right, there is language that would have a national building code override your local and state codes.

The bill would give the federal government power over local building codes. It requires that by 2012 codes must require that new buildings be 30 percent more efficient than they would have been under current regulations. By 2016, that figure rises to 50 percent, with increases scheduled for years after that. With those targets in mind, the bill expects organizations that develop model codes for states and localities to fill in the details, creating a national code. If they don’t, the bill commands the Energy Department to draft a national code itself.


9 posted on 06/29/2009 12:51:02 PM PDT by franky8 (For the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: rockrr

That message must be delivered to this treasonous dog so he knows he’s toast. None of these dogs are representing the American people. Is there any way to impeach or get rid of traitors?


10 posted on 06/29/2009 12:53:44 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: llevrok
"A 300 page bill."

It is my understanding, via Rush, that the 300 pages were just the amendments to the bill.

11 posted on 06/29/2009 12:56:48 PM PDT by Spunky (Quit breathing! You are contributing to global warming.)
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To: sionnsar

Are the ‘Bama and the Democrats quietly conducting a reign of terror in Congress? With the total loyalty of the MSM, and it’s willingness to bury stories of corruption like the firing of the IG, can anybody stand against him?


12 posted on 06/29/2009 12:58:03 PM PDT by Spok (Proud father of a Marine in the 1/1.)
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To: sionnsar

Screw Reichert. I won’t give him the time of day again.


13 posted on 06/29/2009 12:58:49 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Sure. The House can vote to impeach any Federal officer. The number of times the House have voted to impeach a House member, unless I am much mistaken, is 1.

I suppose kneecapping might discourage treason. But, as the old children's fable asks, ''Who will bell the cat?''

14 posted on 06/29/2009 12:59:24 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: pissant

Let’s just see if the people in his district get off of their arses & throw him out in the primaries. I have my doubts.


15 posted on 06/29/2009 1:04:50 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: sionnsar; xcamel; steelyourfaith

He WAS offered some kind of deal/bribe to vote “Yes” for this 1.3 trillion dollar tax increase.

We just don’t know what it was. Yet.


16 posted on 06/29/2009 1:26:18 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: sionnsar

Almost all forms of power generation, except nuclear can be considered solar energy.

Hydro based power is also ‘solar’ energy ... without the sun, there wouldn’t be evaporation which gives the water its potential energy.

Oil and coal are ‘solar’ energy. Plants used the sun’s energy to split the carbon dioxide molecule and then used this carbon to grow. (The cycle time for oil may not even be the millions of years as we were taught in grade school... it might be oils from algae and bacteria form oil fields in a much shorter time span).

Nuclear power is not solar energy.

Ethanol from plants (both 6 carbon and cellulosic) is also ‘solar’ energy.

Bio-diesel & other fuels from blue-green algae is also ‘solar’ energy.

And of course, solar energy is also solar energy.

Wind based power is also ‘solar’ energy. Without the heating and cooling of our planet, we wouldn’t have winds.

Wave based power is mostly ‘solar’ energy based on winds.

(The above list is in cost per energy unit).


17 posted on 06/29/2009 1:39:02 PM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow
And of course, solar energy is also solar energy.

Photovoltaic, thermal, and (concentrated) thermal.

18 posted on 06/29/2009 1:44:19 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Neda Agha-Soltan - murdered by illegitimate government)
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow; BelegStrongbow

Say, you two wouldn’t happen to be related, no? *\;-)


19 posted on 06/29/2009 1:45:06 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Neda Agha-Soltan - murdered by illegitimate government)
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To: franky8

...and building codes that are written by Democrats are all about maintaining maximum union employment


20 posted on 06/29/2009 1:45:18 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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