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To: devane617
Revolution will happen again, but will it be too late...

Will there be a revolution if secession occurs?

What is Texas or Alaska decide to secede, providing a haven for like-minded Americans?

Do we turn over 49 states to the liberals and retain one for ourselves?

An even larger issue is do we turn over the United States, the most benevolent force for freedom in the history of mankind over to socialists? How long would a free Texas last if the other 49 states turned against it?

How long would a free Texas last if the rest of the world turned against it?

There is a very real possibility that conservatism may become extinct for a generation or two and that the revolution may take place decades or centuries from now.

We should all think about this before committing to one avenue (secession) or the other (revolution).

6 posted on 06/27/2009 7:55:16 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Succession is possible now because no one on the left has the guts to duke it out like Lincoln did to preserve the union. They’re all “anti-war”. The same techniques two bit dictators use to “negotiate” over long periods of time without actually doing anything should work.

But that won’t be necessary. This could be a bloodless “succession”, simply based on economics. Imagine a movement to simply reduce the amount of taxes paid by slightly increasing exemptions, times 50 million people. The obama administration would be instantly brought to their knees. They would have little recourse if the number of people was big enough. Their normal strategy would be to prosecute the leaders of the movement. But if properly structured using the internet the leaders would be impossible to identify.

I think this is the next logical step. Their cash flow is so critical now that just a little nudge at the margins makes the entire house of cards fall. The bond markets are already going into petit mal seizures over the volume of borrowing. If tax receipts fell by ten percent more it’s curtains (we’re already heading in that direction due to unemployment continuing to rise). It will be painful but they will be swept out of office and discredited, and we can rebuild later.


17 posted on 06/27/2009 8:05:16 AM PDT by drangundsturm
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To: Erik Latranyi
How long would a free Texas last if the rest of the world turned against it?

We have nukes.

And all manner of interesting things.

Molon Labe.

61 posted on 06/27/2009 8:35:42 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Erik Latranyi

So, what if a big part of the US joined in the secession? What if it turns out that secession looks like the county by county map of the last election? If so, then the little blue pockets will starve in short order and the fight will be to keep them in there long enough that they dispose of themselves.
If you look at it that way it’s easier to smile in the morning.


78 posted on 06/27/2009 8:51:32 AM PDT by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“What is Texas or Alaska decide to secede, providing a haven for like-minded Americans?”

My family would seriously consider a move, though I think Idaho would go with the other free states.


88 posted on 06/27/2009 9:00:18 AM PDT by Jim Verdolini
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To: Erik Latranyi
Do we turn over 49 states to the liberals and retain one for ourselves?

No! We need more than this. Look at the famous "Red State" maps. (Which are really county maps.) Many states are mostly conservative, but have big cities full of libtards who are running and destroying both the cities and the states. Even California fits this profile.

I'm not sure how this is peacefully worked out, but it is totally unacceptable that any state where the 'tards can steal an election with ACORN lowlifes and welfare recipients is doomed to eternal Libtard Bastion status.

157 posted on 06/27/2009 2:55:58 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Erik Latranyi
How long would a free Texas last if the other 49 states turned against it?

The other 49 wouldn't turn against Texas. Many would, but many wouldn't. State by stae, it would probably be pretty close to a 50/50 split. Texas secession would be the first crack in the union, but certainly not the last.

That's why if this idea ever starts to seriously materialize, the federal government will move to put it down with extreme force. Organizers will be executed for sedition, supporters will be imprisoned. It would be all-out war.

The idea of a peaceful secession is a pipe dream. If you want Texas back, you're going to have to take it back from the biggest superpower on earth.

163 posted on 06/27/2009 4:10:39 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Erik Latranyi
How long would a free Texas last if the rest of the world turned against it?

Look to Israel for a partial answer. Molon Labe.

189 posted on 06/27/2009 8:05:20 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Give them the New England States. The bastards have already ruined them. How do we get the conservatives out and ship the traitors in there as our ‘gift’ to them?

Better yet......let’s start a 527 with the sole purpose of shipping them OUT OF THE USA.


194 posted on 06/28/2009 1:36:43 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Lock ,Load..... Point & Click)
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To: Erik Latranyi

There is a very real possibility that conservatism may become extinct for a generation or two and that the revolution may take place decades or centuries from now.
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Why do you assume that there are less conservatives and that they are the minority. Maybe until now, there voices have just been silent.


209 posted on 06/28/2009 10:59:57 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

How long would a free Texas last if the rest of the world turned against it?


As long as it can...

I would be appalled if the rest of the states we used to be in “union” with would wage open war with us for deciding that they were not what we wanted to be a part of anymore...

Those who do not agree can certainly leave, and I would protect that decision with great enthusiam...And they should not be molested in any way shape or form for wanting to leave...But any state that wishes to dissolve their association with the Union should not be dissrespected for doing so, or even making noises to do so...

But what should happen is that the rest of the states should really dig deep and try to find out why...And not devote time, money and thought into what they want to do to us for deciding to leave the Union...

I figure a move like this should not be a permanent one either...Think about how neat it would be to fix the problems which created the separation,and see a re-unification at some time down the road...

That would be a great day if you ask me...

But if there is to be a fight...Well, that won’t be my decision, but it certainly would not be something I would shy away from either...No one will ever be that unhappy again as far as I am concerned...

But lets see if we can avoid this if we can...


217 posted on 06/28/2009 11:48:11 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: Erik Latranyi

“How long would a free Texas last if the rest of the world turned against it?”

They are welcome to try. Texas makes nuclear weapons.

It is doubtful they would, though. The UN recognized Texas as a separate entity currently annexed by the US some time back.


224 posted on 06/28/2009 12:26:50 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Erik Latranyi; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...

The lifeblood of our country are the true patriots whose hearts and minds are not controlled by the government, but by God. The backbone of this country is the military. Whoever controls the hearts and minds of the military controls the country. The military are sworn to uphold the Constitution, and are willing to lay their life down for it

The liberals and the Left are a bunch of chicken-sh*t cowards who, are anti-military, who never met a war they couldn’t run away from, who don’t like guns, don’t own guns, and wouldn’t know what to do with them if they did.

THEY should be afraid of us. THEY do not control us. Not by a long shot.

We have an unwavering faith in God and a love for what our country was, and still could be, if we really believe that, with God on our side, we can take it back.

That’s the intangible element and indominiable spirit of the Revolution that led to the birth of America.

The enemy in this country are a Godless lot. They worship Baal - The Golden Calf, aka materialism and secularism.

Don’t think for as moment that the Godless and faithless horde will ever be able to defeat the God of the faithful and righteous.

We have a replay of 1765 now with the most repressive taxes ever in the history of our country, before and after the Revolution.

Ten years later, the colonies had decided, “Enough is enough.”

It may have taken us 50 years to get to this point, but the end result will be the same.

I’m not ready to count this country out.


229 posted on 06/28/2009 1:06:42 PM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
How long would a free Texas last if the rest of the world turned against it?

I know Texas would have nukes, that would be one card in their favor. Still would the Union be willing to lose Little Rock, St. Louis or Memphis to the Texas ANG to keep Texas?
268 posted on 06/28/2009 7:03:18 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Woodrow Wilson should have been waterboarded.)
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