Posted on 06/27/2009 7:41:27 AM PDT by quesney
While reading the following news story:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/motoringAutoNews/idUKTRE5406CF20090501
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I was reminded two very important quotes from John Adams about the American Revolution:
* As to the history of the revolution, my ideas may be peculiar, perhaps singular. What do we mean by the Revolution? The war? That was no part of the revolution; it was only an effect and consequence of it. The revolution was in the minds of the people, and this was effected from 1760 - 1775, in the course of fifteen years, before a drop of blood was shed at Lexington. o Letter to Thomas Jefferson (1815-08-24), The Works of John Adams
What do we mean by the American Revolution? Do we mean the American war? The Revolution was effected before the war commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations... This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. * Letter to H. Niles (1818-02-13)
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In other words, years before the American Revolution, there had been a revolution in people's minds about the way things were and the way things should be.
Forget the disputes over just how real are Obama's high poll numbers. This is beyond Obama, or even his current followers.
Whether we realize it or not, the US went through another mental revolution of thought over the past few decades -- maybe beginning as far back as the anti-war protests of the 1960s, maybe to Roosevelt's New Deal, maybe to Lincoln forcing a more centralized Union...whatever.
This revolution of thought has slowly eroded the entire mental foundation of the country's founding principles.
The U.S., as it was and as many of us here still think of it, is already gone. Dead. A number of us have not fully caught up to this emerging reality.
Obama, and Bush before him, are only making that obvious. Steele, Arlen Spectre, the feckless GOP, all the rest -- it's all part of bigger picture already drawn and entrenched, maybe even before many of us were born.
Many of us are holding onto a mental artifact that is gone or never existed in the minds of our "fellow Americans." That remains true no matter what happens to Obama, long after he's gone.
Does that mean we give up? No. But that if you're making a personal decision not to give up, you have to start thinking more seriously about follow-up to those Tea Parties and perhaps to secession.
The U.S. is, beyond everything else, an idea. When our "fellow Americans" no longer share the basic elements of that idea -- of even basic standards of mutual respect, logic, reason, civil discourse, respect for others as equals -- our "fellow Americans" are no longer our "fellow Americans."
Plan accordingly.
You might be right but perhaps not. I can easily imagine a civil war in which the Marxists butcher the other side gleefully, in which multitudes of leftists watch and silently--if not openly--relish the slaughter as an opportunity to crush the right once and for all. It's already happened in Russia, China, Vietnam, Cambodia and elsewhere. So, why can't it happen here?
Look to 1861. Some sided with the federal government. Others sided with the rebellion. I imagine that is how it would play out today.
"THIS IS US, BEING NICE" would be a great sign for a tea party.
But not without a serious fight.
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Hopefully, no Pb will have to fly to make things right again. But if it does, and if I must die in the effort, I want to go down fighting until the end. I would not want to live under the realization that I had not done all I could.
If lead has to fly, I want to fling all of mine.
Yes the trouble I sensed November 4th, has all come true and in much greater magnitude than I could have ever imagined. Never before had I felt true DREAD for what would happen after an inauguration day. It all has happened. AND MORE. One insult to America after another. One praise of islam after another from the foreigner who occupies our White House.
This morning on a Fox Saturday business show, Ben Stein said what I’ve said about the usurper dictator and what has been happening. Ben called it all “Frightening” and he was not smiling, he was somber as I am. There is nothing remotely funny about what the marxist America hater Obama(piss be upon his name) has done to our country. His destruction will continue at break neck speed until he is removed from office. I wouldn’t put it past him to make himself dictator for life. He will be damned to hell, just for his zeal for abortion. God will have His judgement upon the soul of this devil.
I’ve said it many times since Nov.4th...I have never before been in fear for our country because of who was elected to be president. Fear. I mean fear that the country will be changed forever from the freedom loving country of our Founders to the socialist pile of crap we’ll have left when Obama is done with us. Clinton, I MISS Clinton. I WISH it were Clinton. Dirt bag that he was, he did not hate America and we know he was born here at least.
Mourning in America. Prepared for the worst. Ready for Revolution. LIVE FREE OR DIE. Screw the crooked politicians, once cap and tax is implemented IT’S ALL OVER. End of the line for America as we knew it. THIRD WORLD POVERTY on the way. Damn them all to hell, every one of the greedy power hungry politicians in Washington, damn them all to hell. This is OUR country!!! Give me back my AMERICA!!!
It was a mirage.
Now in many ways the former Soviet Union (Russia in particular) is more conservative and Christian than this nation. This nation seems hell bent on appeasing Islam, elevating secularism, and destroying Christianity.
YES! Income tax = part-time slavery.
Social entities, nations that get too large tend to break
up. This will happen to us.
The guys I served with thought murtha was so disgusting that the very mention of his name triggered a string of four letter words——reids name was also treated with a string of epithets after he made that statement, a statement that undoubtedly cost soldiers lives. It is treason and should be handled accrdingly but unfortunately the democrats are given a pass. My wife is sympathetic but even she gets tired of my rants. Somethings gotta give because our country is being destroyed by the enemy within, an enemy that starts with the current white house occupant. God help the USA
This country is heading toward third world status. It was inevitable when 0bama came out ahead in the election with dominating Demonrat control of Congress. That is why my tagline lists election day as the death of this country. They do need to be challenged however and people need to be reminded what they are doing to this country even if things are dire as they can be. Conservatives need to get good at protest movements and other tactics the left has used because they still need to know they will not silence the truth and the ignorant learning their true nature.
Very powerful words and eloquently said! Thank you for sharing them and your feelings. Authority is something never given; it will have to be taken back by a few brave and courageous people just as always.
Look at injured and departing souls from the streets of Tehran seeking liberty and freedom that we were blessed with by God and our founders. We will face the same pain and suffering if we linger too long.
Good post - thank you.
Isn’t it inexcuseable and sad and pathetic that an insignificant thing like the death of a singer has blown the very important history in the making, the Iranian Fight for Freedom..right off the news cycle???
It’s infuriating.
Those brave souls putting their very lives on the line, probably hundreds murdered by their tyrannical government just for being brave enough to speak, and what does the idiotic American herd of Sheeple eat up? The death of a troubled pedophile.
Iran? Iran? Freedom fighting citizens yearning to be free, needing the support of America? What has Usurper given them? Nothing. He prefers to deal with Iran’s tyrants. He is fine with the slaughter of innocents in the streets. He wishes he could do the same to you and me. He does not want dissent. Like the mullahs, muslim Usurper wants us to conform, submit, or be killed at his command. He is a usurper dictator and nothing more or less.
Neda, who was murdered in the streets of Iran by her government, will not be forgotten my me. That beautiful young woman, who only asked for the freedom that is rightfully hers, gunned down, died in the arms of her father as she lay on a dirty street. THAT is what tyranny is, that is the total control that Obama dreams about. The ability to kill whomever he wishes to eliminate, anyone who does not submit. The only thing we have that she didn’t was the ability to fire back. That is the only thing keeping our government from completely controlling us.
“The thing that separtates the American Christian from every other person on Earth is the fact that he would rather die on his feet, than live on his knees.” George Washington
Placemarker ... boiler building steam.
CW II Ping!
No! We need more than this. Look at the famous "Red State" maps. (Which are really county maps.) Many states are mostly conservative, but have big cities full of libtards who are running and destroying both the cities and the states. Even California fits this profile.
I'm not sure how this is peacefully worked out, but it is totally unacceptable that any state where the 'tards can steal an election with ACORN lowlifes and welfare recipients is doomed to eternal Libtard Bastion status.
Not only is Obama fine with the slaughter of innocents in the streets, he is fine with the slaughter of innocents in the womb.
I dont see the world avoiding retribution on a biblical scale. Powers and forces beyond our ability to comprehend that have been awakened and the time prophesied approaching. Pray our nation gets on the side of truth and compassion and for courage to remain steadfastly on that side.
America , as we knew it, died November 5, 2008 from self inflicted wounds[ votes by fools].
At this point in time , two quandries can describe us: 1. We are where the colonist were before they started shooting the King’s men. The King’s men of then are our politicians today. At one point in time, both the soldiers , officers, and civil authorties were probably liked and respected those whom they protected. And were liked and respected in turn. As time passed, both the King’s soldiers and the civil officials began to look down on the colonists and feel that they, the King’s officers , men,and civil officials, felt that the colonists were inferior to them. As more time passed, these thoughts grew into actions and deeds. By the Lexington and Concord happened, the colonists were held in open scorn, contempt, and ridicule by both the Kingh’s soldiers and civil officials.
Contrast and compare the actions of today’s politicans toward the citizens and the King’s men actions toward the colonists then.
2. The Jews in Germany during the 1920’s and 1930’s. If we just go along with what the government ‘s plans, don’t make waves , don’t cause any trouble, perhaps this will pass and we will be spared. History tells us what happened to that hope.
Yesterday, the House of Representatives, in their infinate wisdom,passed a bill, despite the citizen opposition running about 10,000 to 1 against, that will destroy the United as an industrail Nation in time. This will drastically affect every person except the politicians living in the United States and their families.
The question is, Will we fight or tuck out tail between our legs and cower along with it?
Winston Churchill is said to have made a speech in which he said that, If we won’t fight when we can win, we may have to fight when we have no chance of winning but only to die as free men /women. This is from memory and not a quoite but it describes the present to a tee.Me? When the time comes, I will do the best that I can.
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