Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Faith

>>Mack Ellis and Carl Swensson are headed to Washington DC and should be there on Monday. They have a number of stops to make to serve the Super Jury Presentments on various people who are complicit in helping Obama stay in office.<<

That is great, but can anyone please tell me what the enforcement is on this?
I mean there seems to me that there is a process in place for a “civilian grand jury” but how do it’s findings, indictments get enforced?

Anyone? Please I have asked a lot of people and no one seems to really know.


141 posted on 06/27/2009 10:32:42 AM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 125 | View Replies ]


To: Munz
That is great, but can anyone please tell me what the enforcement is on this?

There is none. "Civilian Grand Jury" is a figment of the juror's imagination. It has no legal power, no legal standing, no legal authority.

145 posted on 06/27/2009 10:36:45 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 141 | View Replies ]

To: Munz

More from the web site. I have the same questions you have. The law is in place but can easily be ignored if the jurors do not persist.

http://americangrandjury.org/serve_court.html

Grand Jury Presentments and Serving

What is a Grand Jury?

A Grand Jury when convened is responsible for reviewing evidence, naming a defendant and handing down presentments. A Grand Jury can only hear criminal charges. A Grand Jury is NOT a trial jury. Grand Juries can only hand down presentments, they cannot hand down a verdict like a judicial trial jury can.

What are presentments?

Presentments are the actual charges handed down by a Grand Jury against the defendant. The presentments are reduced to writing so they may be served with a court or other party. The term “presentments” comes from the United States Constitution under Amendment 5 of the Bill of Rights.

What do you do with presentments once handed down?

You serve a court with the presentments. The court turns the presentments into a formal indictment and sets the criminal case over for trial. The court prosecutes the defendant named in the presentments or indictment.

Can presentments be served to others?

YES. The court may be the final destination but presentments can be served on such parties as a sheriff, magistrate, police chief, mayor, judge, prosecutor, district attorney, legislator or others. Will these other parties be able to prosecute the case? NO. Only a court or court appointed prosecutor can prosecute the case. So why serve others? Other parties such as a sheriff, police chief or District Attorney have enormous powers when it comes to prosecuting criminals through the court system.

What does “serving” the presentments mean?

People often confuse “filing” with “serving.” American Grand Jury presentments are not a lawsuit, complaint or other such legal documents. Presentments are served or delivered to a court, sheriff, District Attorney, etc. We DO NOT file anything. We deliver or serve presentments.

The job of the court is to accept the presentments and act upon them. This is a very key issue. By Constitutional law a court MUST accept the presentments. Will they always comply? NO. The courts like to think they are responsible only to their own rules, procedures or state laws. If the court operates under the Supreme law of the land, the Constitution, they can and should accept Constitutional Grand Jury presentments.


152 posted on 06/27/2009 10:44:47 AM PDT by Faith
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 141 | View Replies ]

To: Munz

“....but can anyone please tell me what the enforcement is on this??

None. It will not stand in a court of law. This is something akin to the mock trials conducted by students and debaters.
It might attract a good bit of attention though. I’m not sure at this point if that is good or bad. We are already being described as nuts because so many have jumped on this for publicity or solicitation of funds using rumors and/or false claims.
Guess we’ll see how it goes.


165 posted on 06/27/2009 11:05:17 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Evil exists, but cannot act without willing participants. Obama participates.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 141 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson