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Climate Bill Showdown: Obama, Dems Pressing Hard
Associated Press ^ | June 25, 2009

Posted on 06/25/2009 4:03:07 PM PDT by reaganaut1

President Barack Obama pushed urgently Thursday for passage of legislation to confront global warming, billing it as a job-creating machine rather than the costly ''job killer'' Republicans denounced. He telephoning wavering Democrats on the eve of what could be a historic House vote.

Speaking in the Rose Garden at the White House, Obama said Washington must not miss the opportunity to work on cleaning the air, creating new ''green'' energy jobs and moving the nation away from its reliance on fossil fuels such as oil, coal and natural gas.

The White House appeared concerned that momentum for the bill was slipping, though White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said that when it came time for a House showdown, ''I'd bet on the president.''

Democratic leaders scurried to line up enough votes to get the bill passed. They enlisted former Vice President Al Gore, the country's most prominent voice on the urgency of addressing climate change, to make phone calls to wary lawmakers -- including some who believe the House bill was too weak rather than too strong.

House Republicans for weeks have maintained a drumbeat against the legislation, calling it a massive energy tax on every American and a ''job killer'' because it will force higher prices on electricity, gasoline and other energy sources as the economy shifts from cheaper fossil fuels, or as companies and utilities are forced to buy pollution allowances.

Obama as well as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., sought to counter that argument.

''This is going to be a close vote because of misinformation out there that there's somehow a contradiction between clean energy and economic growth,'' said Obama.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; agw; bho44; bhofascism; capandtax; capandtrade; climate; congress; democratcongress; economy; energy; energytax; globalwarming; gorebullwarming; goretax; obama; taxes; waxmanmarkey; youllpayforthis
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To: blueyon
Maybe ~ hey, with Cap and Tax in place it's going to be difficult to heat your house, to say nothing of buy steak. However, if we did what folks did in the good old days, we could set aside a portion of the home (and with 2 story houses, the bottom floor) for our livestock.

Keep 'em at home. They'd warm the place up in winter and keep the lawn trimmed in summer.

Unfortunately most American urban areas suffer from laws prohibiting the keeping of livestock. We must now work to change those laws to bring back civilized living in this country.

21 posted on 06/25/2009 4:23:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: reaganaut1; IrishCatholic; Normandy; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
Thanx !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

22 posted on 06/25/2009 4:24:22 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" - Lady Thatcher)
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To: airborne

Michael Jackson died!!!

So forget about the media covering anything that Congress rams through in the next 48-72 hours...
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YEP, SICKENING ISN’T IT? and that is exactly why will will let our republic fail. Celebrity, American Idol, that’s what is important even though it in no way affects our lives.


23 posted on 06/25/2009 4:25:31 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: airborne

My thought exactly when i heard the MJ news.

The Dems will look upon this as an “opportunity” and slam through every liberal dream bill they can.


24 posted on 06/25/2009 4:26:06 PM PDT by Timeout (The Brits have their royal family. We have our privileged "public servant" class.)
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To: reaganaut1
Now is the time to remind the House of Representatives, that they are elected to office to represent, WE THE PEOPLE.

They are not there to be 0bama’s agenda drivers. They are the check against bad policy.

Do any of you remember last August in the House of Representative what happened? There was a rebellion.

We the People should demand records be made public of every damn closed door, midnight rendezvous committed in the House of Representatives. It is our House and we need to start acting like it.

Those folks up there are guests of the People. They occupy that House at our discretion.

Emails, letters, faxes, phone calls on legislation are being ignored. It is time to start reminding them of how they got their rooms in the House of the People. Elections of consequences, their votes have consequences too. We the People decide those consequences.

25 posted on 06/25/2009 4:28:02 PM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: mojitojoe; Timeout; RDTF; mrsixpack36
Personal responsibility is excused if you're a big enough star (apparently).

But for anyone who has been molested, the idea of waiting a day to “show respect” for a pedophile is more reprehensible than anything.

And for all you Freepers who I've offended, I understand if you are offended, but I don't plan on respecting this man. EVER!!!

26 posted on 06/25/2009 4:32:42 PM PDT by airborne (Congratulations to the Stanley Cup Champions! PITTSBURGH PENGUINS!!!)
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To: airborne
This is a dream come true for Obama!

Quite the opposite. I think MJ just moonwalked all over the Obama Media Megaphone.
27 posted on 06/25/2009 4:37:57 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Big E
I would expect they’ll get a bunch of NE RINOs to vote yea, and lose a bunch of coal country, Midwest Blue Dogs.

So far the only Repub who had said she backed it was Mary Bono, but she may be going the other way now.

Yes, they are going to lose the coal country.

28 posted on 06/25/2009 4:41:43 PM PDT by what's up
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To: muawiyah

Maybe ~ hey, with Cap and Tax in place it’s going to be difficult to heat your house, to say nothing of buy steak. However, if we did what folks did in the good old days, we could set aside a portion of the home (and with 2 story houses, the bottom floor) for our livestock.
Keep ‘em at home. They’d warm the place up in winter and keep the lawn trimmed in summer.

I think you are on to something. Hey Maybe all the folks in the cities (as livestock will most definitely be out, unless of course for voodoo sacrifice)why not follow in Mrs Obama foot steps, plant a garden, not just any garden but WHOLE living room gardens, Apartments only. The higher the floor the bigger the garden. The government can even give everyone a free garden hose. Just think of all that fresh air............


29 posted on 06/25/2009 4:59:04 PM PDT by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: mojitojoe

FOX has been going on about the death of Michael Jackson for 2 hrs. now.


30 posted on 06/25/2009 5:05:26 PM PDT by KansasGirl (I still think Obama is just plain creepy.)
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To: reaganaut1

This needs to be put on hold. Michael Jackson has died. /s


31 posted on 06/25/2009 5:08:34 PM PDT by dforest (Anyone dumb enough to have voted for him deserves what they get.. No Pity!)
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To: reaganaut1

I called my Missouri Democrat Congresscriter this afternoon. Was told that he had not made up his mind but they would be happy to pass my opinion on to his DC office. He is a more conservative democrat but believe calling congressmen can be rewarding. Remember the immigration debate last year!


32 posted on 06/25/2009 5:15:03 PM PDT by brydic1
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To: rfp1234

BO just says that all the talk and facts of the opposition are just lies. It disgusts me. No one will call him on it either.


33 posted on 06/25/2009 5:15:33 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: muawiyah

“Just looking at it personally, if my electric bill doubles, my gasoline bill triples, and the price of meat increases 10 fold, I will be more than a little pi$$ed.”

This may be one way to finally get rid of him. There will be a major uprising and call for the birth certificate if no one in America can afford anything because of BO. It could even be the death of liberalism and the dems for gernations to come.


34 posted on 06/25/2009 5:18:31 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: muawiyah

“I’m not beyond trying roasted politician on a slow cook woodfire if it comes to that.”

Only problem I see with that is no matter how you clean or marinate politician, it will still taste like Turkey Vulture. You’ll never get the rotted carrion taste & smell out of it.


35 posted on 06/25/2009 5:20:05 PM PDT by sjmjax
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To: sjmjax

I think a dose of Zycam will help us get over that problem. Plus, almost anything cooked until “well done” will taste more like charcoal than meat.


36 posted on 06/25/2009 5:21:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Big E
And I love how the (baised) AP report ends their piece with this little tidbit: "and 56 percent say they would approve such measures even if it increased their monthly electricity costs by $10". What the AP neglects to mention is this: "44 percent said they would back a cap-and-trade system if it boosted monthly electricity bills by $25."

So, even in their biased polling, support goes lower as the costs go higher. What are the chances that they polled people if the costs were as high as 400 a month.

37 posted on 06/25/2009 5:25:28 PM PDT by lowbridge (It's not that liberals are ignorant, it's that they know so much that isn't so - Ronald Reagan)
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To: reaganaut1

Once again the state run media gives us the party line pure propoganda. 1) 75% of American want this ? I would have to question who was polled (demographics) where was poll conducted. I bet it wasn’t West Virginia, or any state using coal. 2)$10 a month for electricity? I wonder if these same people would say yes, if they realized that eventually their electricity bills would increase by 90%.

We haven’t even discused the rise in cost of every good and service produced in the US. Everything we buy or sell will increase in price. As the cost of these energy credits increases who will pay that increased cost. We the consumer will pay. Green energy is not cheap! It cost more than “fossil fuels.” It is also less effiecient that fossil fuels.
How can you say energy bill when nuclear power is not in this bill? I think if you want cheap affordable energy, then nuclear is the way to go. It is the only viable, long term energy repalacement that is cheap at this time.


38 posted on 06/25/2009 5:28:11 PM PDT by wbones8765 (The worst idea ever)
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To: reaganaut1

Love how they polled people, asking if they would support it if their electricity bills would be 10 dollars a month higher. AS IF that was going to be the true cost, when the real cost is going to be in the hundreds per month, in not only electricity, but gas too. Not to mention everything we buy.


39 posted on 06/25/2009 5:29:44 PM PDT by lowbridge (It's not that liberals are ignorant, it's that they know so much that isn't so - Ronald Reagan)
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To: reaganaut1
[White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said that when it came time for a . . .showdown, ‘’I'd bet on the president.’’]

The pro-Democracy demonstrators in Iran made the same miscalculation.

40 posted on 06/25/2009 5:37:53 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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