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As an alternative to GOP good-ol-boy, old-guard insider Bill Brady (You'll remember him as Jim Oberweis' stalking horse, who ran specifically to split the Conservative vote away from Oberweis so good friend Judy Topinka could be on the ballot in the General), Adam Andrzejewski is in the running - and polls ahow a close one.

In 2006, Bill Brady looked Conservative voters in the eye and lied, blatanly lied, in the closing days of the primary, telling us he was the clear Conservative front-runner and not Oberweis -- this despite his being CLEARLY behind is the polls, and everyone on the Conservative side trying to find a way to stop Topinka from being the nominee. he claimed inside polling showing he was ahead -- without ever showing that supposed polling.

The IL GOP is starting to line-up behind Topinka's good friend who did everything in his power to ensure her victory in the 2006 GOP primary in IL. Don't let the lion of the GOP old guard ride the "next-in-line" system to a nomination. We don't reward stalking horses.

1 posted on 06/22/2009 4:52:13 PM PDT by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC

Rev. Wright says he doesn’t want any ‘AndrzJewski’ running Chicago. In fact, he doesn’t want an “Jewskis” in Chicago at all.

Obama decided to skip any comment on this. He didn’t want to upset the locals in their voting. Sorta like Iran.


2 posted on 06/22/2009 4:59:09 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: TitansAFC

I gotta dumb question...Andrzejewski is pronounced with a “g” sound?

So “drz” is pronounced with a hard “g”?

Interesting...I knew Pope JPII’s last name was pronounced with a “w” instead of an “l” in Wojtyla, but it’s interesting that “drz” is a hard “g”!

Ed


3 posted on 06/22/2009 5:27:43 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: TitansAFC

actually, a closer approximation of pronunciation is On-jay-ev-ski


4 posted on 06/22/2009 5:55:57 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Do you want a President or a King?)
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To: TitansAFC

hi there!

My sweetie was invited by an old high school friend for the event in Chicago tonight. He’s the “recovering liberal” teacher I’ve mentioned around FreeRepublic a bunch of times. If you see a 5’9” Indian guy lurking at that event, 35 years old (but looks 25, I swear) you’ll have found him!

Go easy on him. It’s his first “right wing wacko” event. LOL ;) (his name is Jeff)


9 posted on 07/01/2009 3:51:26 AM PDT by Daisyjane69
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To: TitansAFC; Impy; fieldmarshaldj
As an alternative to GOP good-ol-boy, old-guard insider Bill Brady >> (You'll remember him as Jim Oberweis' stalking horse, who ran specifically to split the Conservative vote away from Oberweis so good friend Judy Topinka could be on the ballot in the General) <<

Yep, sure, Bill Brady, a lifelong conservative with a proven track record, spend millions of dollars of his own money in 2006 simply to sabotage 3-time loser Jim Oberweis chances and ensure evil RINO Topinka got nominated. As proof that evil scumbag Brady endorsed Topinka in the general election!! (of course Jim Oberweis did too, but this fact is only bad when Brady does it...). Otherwise, we all KNOW Oberweis would be Governor today (nevermind that pesky fact that the polls show he was polling the weakest of the four GOP candidates in general election matchups against Blago) Commence operation tin-foil hat. Ohhh yeah!!

>> Adam Andrzejewski is in the running - and polls ahow a close one. he claimed inside polling showing he was ahead -- without ever showing that supposed polling. he claimed inside polling showing he was ahead -- without ever showing that supposed polling. <<

Sounds like Adam is relying on the same "polls" you bash Bill Brady for relying on, since every poll I've seen show Adam is NOT the front runner and polling way behind Brady and Dillard. If Adam comes in third place and splits the conservative vote with Brady, then he'd be guilty of the same crime you accuse Brady of in 2006. Wouldn't that be ironic? My, my. Logic was never a strong point with the Oberweis crowd.

>> In 2006, Bill Brady looked Conservative voters in the eye and lied, blatanly lied, in the closing days of the primary, telling us he was the clear Conservative front-runner and not Oberweis -- this despite his being CLEARLY behind is the polls <<

Not to be undone, the Oberweis crowd pulled off the same stunt in 2006, blatantly lying to conservatives that Jim Oberweis had "always been a pro-life candidate" and had been "misquoted" in 2002 (news to those of who clearly remember Oberweis opposing overturning Roe v. Wade in 2002), and that conservatives needed to get behind Oberweis because this was his "last hurrah" and swearing that he " won't run again in 2008 if he loses") After losing, Jim Oberweis did indeed insist on running AGAIN in 2008, torpedoing Chris Lauzen's bid in the primary and then losing a "safe Republican seat" to an unknown Democrat in both the special election and the November general election.

>> everyone on the Conservative side trying to find a way to stop Topinka from being the nominee. <<

Yes. Unfortunately the obvious solution was never realized -- that Jim Oberweis simply put aside his ego and sit it out after losing three times in a row and give conservatives with a better track record of being the nominee. Instead he insisting on running and splitting the conservative vote with a much more electable candidate. Again, facts don't seem to matter much to the Oberweis cultists.

>> The IL GOP is starting to line-up behind Topinka's good friend who did everything in his power to ensure her victory in the 2006 GOP primary in IL. <<

You must be referring to Joe Birkett, since Bill Brady clearly knocked Topinka's liberal views on the campaign trail, regardless of how the Oberweis crowd wants to reinvent history. Now I'm not a fan of Birkett either... :-)

>> Don't let the lion of the GOP old guard ride the "next-in-line" system to a nomination. We don't reward stalking horses.

Really? Then why didn't you give up on Jim Oberweis after the FIRST time he lost, instead of demanding that the GOP "get behind him" for the next four elections and that he "deserved" to be nominated for being runner-up before? If you Oberweis cultist held Jim to the standards you are holding Bill Brady, you would have declared him damaged goods in 2003 after he lost his first statewide bid to Jim Durkin.

10 posted on 08/01/2009 12:35:59 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: TitansAFC; BillyBoy; PhilCollins

That’s bunk man.

“who ran specifically to split the Conservative vote away from Oberweis”

I guess that’s what the Myth Romney of Illinois wants you to believe. Wait maybe that’s a bad comparison, Romney actually was elected once. (I made the mistake of voting for both of those guys in 2006 and 2008, mistakes of a young fool)

“Bill Brady looked Conservative voters in the eye and lied, blatanly lied, in the closing days of the primary, telling us he was the clear Conservative front-runner and not Oberweis — this despite his being CLEARLY behind is the polls,”

Possibly he didn’t categorize Ober as a conservative.

Since the universe revolves around Jim Oberweis it must be true that Brady was only in it to screw him.

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Now Andrzejewski, seems likable but I like Billyboy question that some unknown businessman with no political background running for Governor is out best shot. He really ought to wet his feet first. Is he too good to run for the legislature or for Comptroller or Treasurer or SOS? Or county office? Political nobodies have a terrible record at winning high office.


11 posted on 08/01/2009 1:17:22 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: TitansAFC; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy; PhilCollins; All
Here's an interesting story:

Back in 2006, Melissa Bean was in her first term after beating Phil Crane in 2004 (in a super GOP favored district) and considered highly vulnerable. The GOP establishment lined behind their preferred candidate, drab millionaire Investment banker David McSweeney. McSweeney's only past campaign experience had been a failed primary bid against Crane years earlier, where McSweeney had run as a "moderate" alternative and done very poorly. McSweeney had been pro-choice for years, but apparently was now claiming to be pro-life because he "had to be" to win the primary.

Many in the conservative grassroots disliked and distrusted the GOP establishment choice. The highest polling anti-McSweeney conservative candidate was Kathy Salvi, wife of former U.S .Senate candidate Al Salvi. She was rock solid on all the issues, a distinguished pro-family lawyer in her own right, while still being a great suburban mom to 8 kids. When the Salvi's had campaigned in Bean's district in 1996, during Al Salvi's LOSING Senate race to Dick Durbin, Al Salvi had nevertheless carried EVERY single township in Bean's district -- even the Democrat leaning ones.

Also running was solidly conservative (but little known outside his district) State Rep. Bob Churchill. He was polling in single digits and didn't have enough funds to mount a viable campaign. All of his voters were anti-Sweeney voters just like Salvi's.

On primary day, McSweeney got 42%, Salvi got 34%, and Churchill was in a distant third with 15%. McSweeney went to to lose to Bean in November. If Churchill had dropped out and thrown his support to Salvi, it's almost certain she would have won the primary, given that almost none of Churchill's supporters had McSweeney as their second choice. (Also, unlike Oberweis, Salvi would have probably been a very strong general election candidate).

Despite the fact Churchill was clearly the spoiler in that race and had no chance of winning the primary, no Salvi supporter lashes out at Churchill and his voters today, and nobody did back in 2004. She lost the primary, it's time to move on. No one would suggest any type of nutty conspiracy theory like Churchill being a "McSweeney plant" and running because he got a phone call from McSweeney to "stop Salvi". Nobody points to Churchill euthesically endorsing and campaigning for McSweeney in the general as "proof" they were in cahoots all along, or shows photograph of a handshake between the two of them in a primary debate as "evidence" of a "secret deal" the way the nutty Oberweis conspiracy theorists do with all the supposed "secret message" that Topinka "whispered" in Brady's ear during a primary debate. Nobody would bitterly lash out at Bob Churchill if he ran for another office today, and say he's a treasonous "stalking horse" who needs to be stopped because he "sabotaged Salvi back in '04", and I say that as a Salvi supporter.

Churchill ran because he thought he had the most to offer in that election and that he was the best choice to the GOP could run. It wasn't his time and his decision to run didn't help anything, but it was done in good faith. There are dozens of circumstances you can point to where two conservatives run in the same primary and end up splitting the conservative grassroots vote, which has the side effect of causing the GOP establishment choice to get nominated. An fine example is the NJ 2005 Governor's race, where egomaniac Steve Longean insisted on running for a statewide bid he wasn't prepared for, and won only 8% of the vote but sucked away enough conservative votes from Bret Schundler to ensure a RINO, Doug Forrester, was nominated (and Schundler was far more popular than Longean and only lost the primary by like 2%). There was no conspiracy or "backroom deal" there to "stop Schundler", it was just Longean being stupid. It doesn't show Longean is part of the combine, although it probably only hurt his own future campaigns because how he has the stigma of a four-time loser.

Only the Oberweis crowd continues to lash out at other Republicans every time Oberweis loses and claim that anyone who dares run against him is part of the "combine". They've done it every election since 2002 (and those that did not back him in 2002 have since drunk the Oberweis kool-aid, otherwise he wouldn't have done so well in later campaigns ) and they just won't stop beating that dead horse. He's finished in politics but they still cling to "what could have been" and tear down other conservative Republicans. It's getting really tiresome.

19 posted on 08/03/2009 4:31:26 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: TitansAFC

Heh... I taught one of his sisters. Small world. Good family.


22 posted on 08/03/2009 4:51:10 PM PDT by SaveTheChief (Obama lied, America died.)
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