Posted on 06/20/2009 2:43:51 PM PDT by GoldStandard
I rise in reluctant opposition to H Res 560, which condemns the Iranian government for its recent actions during the unrest in that country. While I never condone violence, much less the violence that governments are only too willing to mete out to their own citizens, I am always very cautious about “condemning” the actions of governments overseas. As an elected member of the United States House of Representatives, I have always questioned our constitutional authority to sit in judgment of the actions of foreign governments of which we are not representatives. I have always hesitated when my colleagues rush to pronounce final judgment on events thousands of miles away about which we know very little. And we know very little beyond limited press reports about what is happening in Iran.
Of course I do not support attempts by foreign governments to suppress the democratic aspirations of their people, but when is the last time we condemned Saudi Arabia or Egypt or the many other countries where unlike in Iran there is no opportunity to exercise any substantial vote on political leadership? It seems our criticism is selective and applied when there are political points to be made. I have admired President Obama’s cautious approach to the situation in Iran and I would have preferred that we in the House had acted similarly.
I adhere to the foreign policy of our Founders, who advised that we not interfere in the internal affairs of countries overseas. I believe that is the best policy for the United States, for our national security and for our prosperity. I urge my colleagues to reject this and all similar meddling resolutions.
No...I’m completely illiterate. My dog is doing the typing for me.
Smart dog. Want to sell it?
Then how will I get the news? I don’t have a TV.
In fact there are few in this world who do impress me regardless of their station.
I think that it is cowardice indeed for elected officials to not take stands that are discernable.
If you believe that this fellow Ron Paul deserves more than a cursory review, then you ought to make a better presentation than what is in your profile and posts.
“what is happening in Iran”
What exactly is happening in Iran?
Because frankly, the only information that we are getting about Iran comes from the establishment media and the federal government.
I find it interesting that just as we were starting to talk about socializing X% of the Republic’s GDP through (more) unconstitutional federal intrusion in health care, all of a sudden we are plastered with wall to wall news about the national elections in a third world country. For what purpose? This is all a nice big distraction as the current administration takes over car companies, interferes with private contracts, puts just about everyone with a conservative or traditionalist view on a watch list, devalues the currency, goes after the 2A etc.
BTW...what about our electronic voting systems? Are they secure?
Once again Ron Paul gets it right. Meaningless resolutions are do gooder feel gooder exercises which amount to nada.
Too bad Americans don’t have the courage of some Iranians. Our last Presidential election was stolen without so much as a whimper. Part voter fraud , part count fraud, part precinct fraud, and govt supported ACORN fraud all contributed to a marxist being elected.
So what are we arguing about? We’re arguing about who supports or doesn’t support the voters of Iran.
We deserve everything Obama stiffs us with.
That IS a good question. I suppose it could well help cover up something much more sinister... and you KNOW our voting machines are not secure... never have been.
Makes for interesting contemplation!
WE, here, can properly argue that... But our “leaders” should not be... They need to tend to the LEGITIMATE business of AMERICA.
I'd say name-calling is pretty pathetic. I doubt if you ran for office and had your every word and thought scrutinized a thousand times over, most wouldn't think of you as a genius frankly.
Yeah, I thought "conservatives" didn't think too highly about all of this feel-good stuff. As far as I'm concerned, shouldn't Congress spend its time taking care of the people's business & adhering to the Constitution instead??? Silly me.
His Audit the Fed bill has over 200 co-sponsors.
And those Tea Parties? They were started by his supporters.
Let me tell you something. These protesters are voicing their support for a "moderate" presidential candidate who was actually a radical extremist Prime Minister, hand-picked by the Ayatollah Khomeini, in the 1980s. How are the Iranians "fighting for freedom?"
Does that mean you are rejecting the possibility that the thing can develop into an overthrow of the mullahs?
YES. As a matter of fact, the students are wanting to return to CLERICAL rule, & get rid of what they call a "military dictatorship" (not that clerical rule isn't a dictatorship in itself, but that's what they want).
They are NOT fighting for what we (including the non-libertarians & non-constitutionists in the U.S.) call "freedom". They still want a theocracy, not minimal government. Remember that their candidate was responsible for 7,000 executions & is one of the main players in Iran's nuke program.
“YES. As a matter of fact, the students are wanting to return to CLERICAL rule, & get rid of what they call a “military dictatorship” (not that clerical rule isn’t a dictatorship in itself, but that’s what they want).”
Our congresscritters, failing one, are a gaggle of knee jerking do gooders. I doubt any of them have a clue who this guy Mir Hossein Mousavi is, much less what his political, social, and religious philosophies are.
For one, he was a part of the Islamic revolution which seized control of Iran. For another, socially, politically, and economically, he may be a marxist for all they know.
Like many have said, Congress should be concerning itself with matters at home. Not wasting time with petty meaningless resolutions supporting someone or something abroad of which they obviously haven’t a clue.
Bump to the thread and to what FReepers need to know about this situation.
Dream on buddy. The Mullahs will never get overthrown there.
I don’t recall doing any dreaming. I asked a question. Thanks
Point taken.
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