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Radiometric Dating: Back to Basics (does it really prove the Earth is millions of years old?)
Answers Magazine ^ | June 17, 2009 | Andrew A. Snelling, Ph.D.

Posted on 06/18/2009 8:48:47 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Radiometric dating is often used to “prove” rocks are millions of years old. Once you understand the basic science, however, you can see how wrong assumptions lead to incorrect dates.

Most people think that radioactive dating has proven the earth is billions of years old. After all, textbooks, media, and museums glibly present ages of millions of years as fact.

Yet few people know how radiometric dating works or bother to ask what assumptions drive the conclusions. So let’s take a closer look and see how reliable this dating method really is...

(Excerpt) Read more at answersingenesis.org ...


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To: GourmetDan
That would support my contention that energy release over dynamic time may be what is constant rather than per radioactive decay event.

But you don't have any observable evidence that this is indeed the case, or ever has been.

221 posted on 06/18/2009 5:25:38 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
"But you don't have any observable evidence that this is indeed the case, or ever has been."

Neither do you, and you just admitted that the measure is over time, not per event.

222 posted on 06/18/2009 5:28:37 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
Neither do you, and you just admitted that the measure is over time, not per event.

I have observable evidence that the energy released per event is constant.

223 posted on 06/18/2009 5:31:46 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
"I have observable evidence that the energy released per event is constant."

No, you just admitted that energy release is not per event but is an extrapolation.

"I agree that there is some degree of "extrapolation" (and interpolation) involved because the energy release of every instance of a decay event was not observed and measured."

That appears much closer to my contention that energy release is over a period of time than your admitted extrapolation (and interpolation) to an event.

224 posted on 06/18/2009 5:41:25 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
No, you just admitted that energy release is not per event but is an extrapolation.

I admitted that it is an extrapolation because not every event was observed and measured. That you have to misrepresent my arguments is hurting your case. Energy release is per event, and the energy release of a single event is measureable. It is measured over time because there does not exist a device capable of instantaneous measurement and recording.

225 posted on 06/18/2009 5:45:28 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: metmom
How that “pi” is supposedly said to be 3 in the Bible is one of the arguments against the Bible from the atheist Darwinists. No matter how lame it is they treat like a great truth.

Very serious stuff that.

226 posted on 06/18/2009 5:51:38 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: tacticalogic
"I admitted that it is an extrapolation because not every event was observed and measured. That you have to misrepresent my arguments is hurting your case. Energy release is per event, and the energy release of a single event is measureable. It is measured over time because there does not exist a device capable of instantaneous measurement and recording."

What's misrepresentation is to admit that decay energy is extrapolated and interpolated from observations over time and then claim you have observed 'per event'. Obviously you haven't and have admitted it twice now. I know it's not what you believe, but I am not misrepresenting your statements, you are.

This is much more consistent with my position that decay energy is constant over time than with your contention of extrapolating and interpolating to individual events.

227 posted on 06/18/2009 5:53:25 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan

It is not only measurable per event, it is predicable and calculable per event, per Einstein.


228 posted on 06/18/2009 5:55:03 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Buck W.

“I am merely attempting to ascertain whether you are in compliance with scripture as written in Leviticus 25:44-45.

So I ask again, where do you buy your slaves?”

Ummm Bucky??? God was speaking to Moses.

No wonder you have the idea that anyone that believes the Bible has weak faith, you clearly don’t understand what you read.

I suggest Bible school at a Christ centered church.


229 posted on 06/18/2009 5:59:07 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

So everyone else is allowed to by slaves in distant lands and only Moses is geographically constrained in his purhasing options? I don’t think so. And by making that statement, is God condoning slavery?

You should read you bible a bit more critically.


230 posted on 06/18/2009 6:06:59 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: tpanther

“Ummm Bucky??? God was speaking to Moses.”

Another question: If God is addressing a specific individual in the bible, as he is addressing Moses in my passage, does that mean that God’s directive applies ONLY to that person? If not, then your rebuttal to my post doesn’t seem to be based on a sound argument.


231 posted on 06/18/2009 6:12:22 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: tpanther

How did radiometric dating turn into ‘where do you buy your slaves’?


232 posted on 06/18/2009 6:21:45 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: tpanther

“I suggest Bible school at a Christ centered church.”

I’ll consider it, but the pastor of the nondenominational megachurch in my neighborhood spends most of his time raising money, taking vacations, and screwing the cute chicks in the congregation. He doesn’t have a lot of time to spare for my salvation.


233 posted on 06/18/2009 6:21:53 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: tacticalogic
"It is not only measurable per event, it is predicable and calculable per event, per Einstein."

You have already admitted twice now that it is measured over time and extrapolated (and interpolated) to an event.

"I agree that there is some degree of "extrapolation" (and interpolation) involved because the energy release of every instance of a decay event was not observed and measured."

"It is measured over time because there does not exist a device capable of instantaneous measurement and recording."

Being measured over time is my position, proven by your own posts.

To continue to claim otherwise in the face of your own statements is laughable.

234 posted on 06/18/2009 6:25:21 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: pctech
Proof of what? That liberals run or evidence against the 1,000,000 year old theory of the earth?

Actually, evidence not proof that:

...most people on these boards do not agree with a true literal interpretation of the Bible, especially when it comes to this type of subject.

This is the only thing I've seen that comes close:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1706571/posts?page=63#63

235 posted on 06/18/2009 6:36:08 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Buck W.

Try a smaller Christ-centered church. And keep in mind your salvation has nothing to do with any human being (except you).


236 posted on 06/18/2009 6:39:36 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Buck W.

“So everyone else is allowed to by slaves in distant lands and only Moses is geographically constrained in his purhasing options? I don’t think so. And by making that statement, is God condoning slavery?”

No...

No...

“You should read you bible a bit more critically.”

and...try to refrain from projections for a day or so.


237 posted on 06/18/2009 6:43:00 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: count-your-change

Funny how they take things so literally when it suits their agenda, and so figuratively when it suits their agenda.


238 posted on 06/18/2009 6:45:33 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tpanther

So if God’s directive applied to everyone, not just Moses, why did you base your contest on the fact that it was addresed to Moses? You added nothing to the discussion, and, by default, my original point still stands, unaltered in any way by your ineffective rebuttal.


239 posted on 06/18/2009 6:45:54 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.

“Another question: If God is addressing a specific individual in the bible, as he is addressing Moses in my passage, does that mean that God’s directive applies ONLY to that person?”

In this case it should be pretty obvious.


240 posted on 06/18/2009 6:46:28 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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