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2 Banks Exit TARP, With More to Follow
NY Times ^ | June 17, 2009 | Peter Edmonston

Posted on 06/17/2009 10:13:53 AM PDT by ml/nj

With the wiring of nearly $10 billion to the United States Treasury, U.S. Bancorp and BB&T on Wednesday became the first large financial institutions to announce that they have repaid the government in full for the preferred shares it bought last fall under the federal bailout program.

U.S. Bancorp, based in Minneapolis, said Wednesday morning it redeemed $6.6 billion in preferred stock from the Treasury. BB&T, based in Winston Salem, N.C., said that it had bought back the preferred shares for $3.1 billion plus a final dividend payment of about $13.9 million.

Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs were also expected to return their federal aid on Wednesday, signaling that the nation’s top bankers are regaining their confidence after the financial crisis that shook Wall Street last fall.

BB&T, U.S. Bancorp, Goldman, Morgan Stanley and six other large financial firms won approval last week to repay the money they received under the Troubled Asset Relief Program, a move that would bring them close to cutting their financial lifeline from Washington.

Among the other banks cleared to exit the TARP were JPMorgan Chase, American Express and Bank of New York Mellon.

(Excerpt) Read more at dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; banking; bbandt; economy; morgan; stanley; tarp
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To: Deb
Oh, I see, you’re just a Bush hater.

You see nothing. It's obvious that you have no clue regarding what I am suggesting here.

While I do not worship, nor ever have worshiped, the ground that Bush walks upon, characterizing me as a Bush hater is obscene.

This is about a fraud perpetrated by a gaggle of financial institutions and not about Bush or Obama, except that the latter benefited politically as a result.

ML/NJ

21 posted on 06/17/2009 11:13:01 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: napscoordinator
I was seriously afraid that none of them would and we would end up with the debt later on (or our grandchildren).

Oh don't worry about that. there will be plenty of debt on our grandchildren with the other trillions Obama is spending, none of which is going to be paid back by anyone except us in interest payments on the national debt.

22 posted on 06/17/2009 11:16:05 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Deb
"Why are you turning this into a bad thing? "

Because it is. Don't you see what they did?

And do you really think this money is going to be taken off the massive national debt Obama has racked up?

This money will eventually vanish, and he and his pals will have stolen a trillion dollars to finance his national brownshirt force.

23 posted on 06/17/2009 11:21:20 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: ml/nj
I don't get the "fraud" part. Why was it not a legitimate move to save the economy? Allowing banks to fail and destroy millions of people's lives would have been a catastrophe. Allowing some banks to appear "healthy" while others required aide would have caused massive bank-runs.

Of course people like you would have blamed Bush no matter what he did.

24 posted on 06/17/2009 11:22:21 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Nathan Zachary

You’re confusing TARP with the stimulus package.


25 posted on 06/17/2009 11:24:20 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb
I don't get the "fraud" part. Why was it not a legitimate move to save the economy?

Because government handouts cannot save the economy. Government spending of any kind is deleterious to the economy, and the kind that has been done in the past eight months is a fusion bomb.

The gangrenous leg is a good analogy; the sooner the failures get completed, the less damage will be done.

26 posted on 06/17/2009 11:28:10 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

The TARP plan was a loan. And it’s getting paid back in record time...with interest.


27 posted on 06/17/2009 11:34:43 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb
I don't get the "fraud" part. Why was it not a legitimate move to save the economy?

It was fraud because the repayment shows there never was a need to "save the economy" (and I guess you wouldn't understand that even if there were a need, it still would be unconstitutional, i.e. illegal, for the Federal government to attempt meet that need).

As for your repeated attempt to divert this to a discussion about President Bush, give it up. This isn't about President Bush.

ML/NJ

28 posted on 06/17/2009 11:41:01 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Deb

Some ot TARP is getting paid back, because they saw that it was in reality an attempt at nationalization.

Much of TARP will never be paid back; it went into failing companies that had no hope of recovery. Delaying the failure of those companies has harmed the economy.

And don’t forget that over half of the funds cannot be accounted for. (Interesting coincidence: Two Japanese men arrested attempting to cross into Switzerland from Italy carrying undeclared bonds with the same value as the missing TARP funds)


29 posted on 06/17/2009 3:01:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Deb
Allowing banks to fail and destroy millions of people's lives would have been a catastrophe.

The people then who needed to be bailout were those who put their money into the banks, not the banks!

Banks have no money, they lend other people's money!

The Bush bailout was a disgrace and against all free market principles!

30 posted on 06/17/2009 10:35:13 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Deb
The TARP plan was a loan. And it’s getting paid back in record time...with interest.

Those banks never needed the money in the first place but were forced to take it by the government.

So the entire 'sky is falling' nonsense that Bush and the nitwit Paulin, was simply smoke and mirrors.

And what is worse, is that the GOP Senate, went along with him instead of resisting it like the GOP House did.

31 posted on 06/17/2009 10:38:51 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: ml/nj; Toddsterpatriot

It’s the profits they made from their dealings with AIG.

Who do you think AIG was paying? Phantoms?


32 posted on 06/17/2009 10:40:58 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (B. Hussein Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: editor-surveyor

What garbage. Cut it out. The bonds were from the Kennedy era. Isn’t there a UFO thread you can hang out on?


33 posted on 06/17/2009 10:56:34 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: fortheDeclaration

You have no idea what you’re talking about.


34 posted on 06/17/2009 10:57:55 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Boiling Pots
Let me see if I understand this. You suggest that Morgan Stanley &c., were owed tons of bucks by AIG and so the government gave/lent/pi$$ed away money to AIG which they then gave to MS &c? Even if this were true I still do not understand what the need was for BILLIONS (with a B) of TARP funds to each of these companies; and why the WSJ et al. wrote the sort of articles last fall, that I linked earlier in this thread.

ML/NJ

35 posted on 06/18/2009 4:35:55 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Deb

Bonds from any era can be sold, or given, at any time.

Deb, your preferred, soft padded safe world has been gone for a long time (if it ever existed).


36 posted on 06/18/2009 7:49:28 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Deb
You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Actually, I do.

Bailouts are anti-free enterprise, no matter which Party does them.

37 posted on 06/18/2009 9:55:04 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: editor-surveyor

Obviously bonds from any era are negotiable. As to your last sentence, you’ve lost your mind (if it ever existed). Try making sense.


38 posted on 06/19/2009 8:31:06 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Duh. Once again, TARP wasn’t a “bailout”, it was a loan and like Bush said, it’s being paid back. You can keep pretending you understand, but you obviously don’t.


39 posted on 06/19/2009 8:34:28 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb
Duh. Once again, TARP wasn’t a “bailout”, it was a loan and like Bush said, it’s being paid back. You can keep pretending you understand, but you obviously don’t.

Duh, you can rename it whatever you want, it was a BAILOUT.

And the Government LOANING money to business is ALSO anti-free enterprise.

40 posted on 06/21/2009 10:00:12 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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