Posted on 06/16/2009 11:28:35 PM PDT by FromLori
Newspaper story on gold and tax fraud brings out the crazies. And the Feds wants their name, SS# and credit card data.
Ah Las Vegas. Home of gambling, sin and hardcore libertarian, anti-government gold bugs.
The Las Vegas Review Journalrecently reported on the trial of Robert Kahre, a guy accused of setting up a scheme to pay employees in gold coins so that they may tell the IRS they were paid by the coin's nominal, face value, rather than what that gold is actually worth when converted into dollars.
Not surprisingly, the story attracted many angry commenters, who hate the IRS and who hate paper currency.
Now, in a case that should once again test the (established) privacy rights of web commenters, the newspaper has be subpoenad for their info. And it's not just your garden variety names and IP addresses that the government wants.
Editor Thomas Mitchell wrote this weekend:
This past week the newspaper was served with a grand jury subpoena from the U.S. attorney's office demanding that we turn over all records pertaining to those postings, including "full name, date of birth, physical address, gender, ZIP code, password prompts, security questions, telephone numbers and other identifiers ... the IP address," et (kitchen sink) cetera.
Tantamount to killing a gnat with an A-bomb.
There was no indication what they were looking for or what crime, if any, was being investigated, just a blanket subpoena for voluminous and detailed records on every private citizen who dared to speak about a federal tax case.
Queue more conspiracy theorizing.
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
Unless your initials are Tim Geithner.
The 0bamunists continue the march to marxism.
Tell ‘em to go pound sand.
If both parties know the $1 coin is worth $200, then the IRS is right and the parties are guilty of tax evasion. What if the payment was made with a piece of antique furniture with $200 but bearing a $1 price tag? Pretty clear in that case.
But, since the coin is legal tender, the situation is not so clear. I would like to hear a legal opinion on that.
I like the idea of reporting my income on the basis of the real value of the fiat currency. Also, I would like to know where to get some of those gold coins at face value.
The Fair Tax Act(HR25/S296) that will replace all federal income taxes
That is idiots folly. The government will never eliminate the right to take money from your paycheck before you even see it.
The government will never eliminate the right to take money from your paycheck before you even see it.
What we will see is a new sales tax (with an ever increasing percentage rate) and an income tax (with an ever increasing tax rate. The government will not end up with less. Mark my reply.
Abolish the IRS. Repeal the 16th Amendment.
The Constitution already has taxation of Corporations in it. Private Individuals are not supposed to be continually taxed. Precedent is to tax ONLY in times of war.
And Congress isn’t supposed to be a life-time job, either. Repeal the 17th Amendment and return to selecting Senators as the Founding Fathers wanted. Article 1, Section 3 of the US Constitution.
Our LIEberal/Socialist/Marxist Bastard rulers are giving We the People ample reason to work hard in the 2010 and 2012 election cycles to replace them with Real Americans.
You heard it here first: A Conservative sweep in 2010 and 2012!
he he he cheating - or making mistake on income tax can deprive private citizens of liberty and property via mandatory individual filing.
The nrst ain’t got no steenkin’ individual filing. Individuals won’t be liable for errors. Errors won’t be near as common either! Like today, ask 10 different experts the same tax question and get 10 different answers. Under the nrst, ask 10 different 3rd graders “what is 23% of $xxx” and you’ll get the same answer 10 times.
Cheating will occur in every tax system. Fortunately, the nrst makes it harder to cheat and easier to get caught... one reason illegals and current tax cheats oppose the nrst :)
Thanks TaxMan for the inspirational post of da day:
A Conservative sweep in 2010 and 2012!
The gov’t will CHOOSE to spend less and tax less if their jobs depend on it.
I think you’re right Taxman - they’ve over-reached by a LOT. Most folks don’t like this...not one bit.
I don’t have a problem with that, as long as it doesn’t involve tax avoidance. Look, I’m only saying this as a friend. You take care...
Sorry, no such thing exists..
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The gov’t will CHOOSE to spend less and tax less if their jobs depend on it.
Then why are they not concerned about their jobs at the present time?????
Because at the present time, the structure of the tax code entrenches them. That needs to change.
You think the tax cheats tell " any level of government ' they are cheating?
Go to any flea market this weekend and you will see all the cheaters you want.
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