[GodGunsGuts]

Ping!

[gundog]

Another fool confusing Darwinism with Social Darwinism. That’s it gg&g...you’re going on the watchlist....seems you folks are capable of anything. Except maybe empiric thought.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Thanks for the ping, GGG. Unfortunately I’ve found myself having to argue yet again elsewhere on this forum with members of a religion who don’t quite see things that way.

[donmeaker]

There is a difference between asserting that evolution takes place, and asserting that someone knows the future, knows what traits will be more fit, and not content to let the future work it self out, begins murdering.

This jerk was a crank. He had nutty ideas, and tried to justify his ideas by asserting without evidence or proof that his ideas followed from accepted science.

It would have the same lack of validity if he had asserted the superiority of blue eyes from the blue sky. He is crazy. Don’t you be crazy.

[Oztrich Boy]

What is it with people named Dave? Why does everybody pick on them for the stupid things they say? It’s not fair.

[Salman]

More blood libel from the Discovery Institute.

[John Locke]

Unfortunately for this rabid screed, Hitler was a creationist. He believed W Scott-Elliot's account that mankind progressed through the separate, special creation of a succession of "root races", of which the so-called Aryan was the fifth (and of course best). In his most read work, Mein Kampf the word "evolution" ("Entwiklung") occurs exactly once, and refers to politics, not biology.

[Dog Gone]

So, this shooting is blamed on evolution?

Have you no shame?

This kind of article completely discredits the source. Totally asinine.

If you want to attack evolution, do it within the scientific boundaries. Throwing dead kittens or Jew-haters into the equation just makes you look like a fool.

[Cicero]

Well, does Darwin require Social Darwinism? Maybe so, maybe no.

The Holocauast Museum shooter was a nutcase. But he was more of a Darwinist nutcase than a Christian nutcase, as the news media portrayed him. If nothing else, Darwinism is open to that kind of “master race” distortion. Christianity is not.

I would take issue with one thing in the article. It numbers the Crusades “among atrocities committed in the name of religion.” Sorry. That’s a bad rap. Yes, the Crusades sometimes went off the rails, like many other major human undertakings. Still, the Crusades were defensive. They were an attempt to reverse the course of Islamic conquest. In the end, they failed in that purpose. But is it reasonable to say that Christendom should not have been allowed to defend itself against Muslim agression and conquest? I think not. The only thing wrong with the Crusades is that they weren’t done better.

[LiteKeeper]

INTREP

[elkfersupper]

I am sorry that your faith is so shallow that it is threatened by a theory.

[Moonman62]

[sickoflibs]

You got to be kidding! So Paleontology turned this Muslim into a killer??LOL He was probably a creationist! That's it, creationism turns kids into killers!

I never see evolutionists make up inane arguments like these to support their ideas. Pathetic!

[count-your-change]

By all mean, Darwin's nihilistic philosophy should not be given a pass. Even Freud took features of Darwinism to explain the so-called oral and anal stages” of human developement as recalling an animal past. For good measure Freud also attempts to make the elevation of Moses to prophet as a response to guilty feelings by the Israelites.

Though his rantings are garbage Freud's ideas have become ingrained in the thinking of evolutionary psychology.

[Ha Ha Thats Very Logical]

Seems to me you could make an equally strong—or equally ludicrous—case that Brunner was advocating that people reproduce after their own kinds. He must have been strongly influenced by the Bible.

[ElectricStrawberry]

Pretty lame, even for your standards.

Tie your opponents to Nazis...check.
Tie your opponents to Commies....check.

Tie your opponents to every nutcase with a gun that goes and shoots someone....check.

This isn’t even about “evolution” and he isn’t even an “evolutionist”.....but don’t let that stop your nonsense.

[Caramelgal]

James von Brunn, the suspect in question, is a white supremacist, a bitter anti-Semite, a Holocaust-denier, a wacked out conspiracy theorist,..

Well at least that much I agree with.

Skimming through von Brunn’s vile screed, one can easily see that the man was so hateful toward mankind and Jews in particular that he desperately grasps at anything he can to make his case. He interweaves a very warped revisionist history with wacko conspiracy theories to grasp at any straw he can, including TOE to come up with support for his rabid and highly paranoid anti-Semitism.

He writes:

As with ALL LIBERAL ideologies, miscegenation is totally inconsistent with Natural Law: the species are improved through in-breeding, natural selection and mutation. Only the strong survive. Cross-breeding Whites with species lower on the evolutionary scale diminishes the White gene-pool while increasing the number of physiologically, psychologically and behaviorally deprived mongrels.

This is not a defense of classical evolutionary biology but a bastardization and condemnation of it. No credible modern evolutionary biologist believes that human races/ethnic groups are a separate species lower on the evolutionary scales from Whites.

von Brunn further writes:

Marx stated there is no God therefore man is not accountable for his acts to some divine Judge. Man is without soul or free-will therefore without significant individual value. He is an evolutionary animal dependent upon his mind (Reason) for salvation. Marx believed Man's destiny is determined solely by his environment (Marx, apparently, never learned of his nemesis, Gregor Johann Mendel (1822- 1884), after whom Mendelism is named — the study of all things Genetic). In nature everything is evolving because everything is determined by its opposite: ergo, the thesis synthesizes with the antithesis thus becoming a new and different thesis — this process repeats itself ad infinitum. In society, therefore, conflict (Dialectical Materialism) is inevitable, essential and continuous until the entire structure (State) collapses.

It should be noted that in this case von Brunn on one hand criticizes Marx, who he hates as a Jew and a Communist and Atheist for believing man is an evolutionary animal and on the other references Mendel’s work on genetics. But Mendel never spoke to eugenics in the manner that von Brunn claims.

von Brunn never mentions Darwin in his “manifesto” but he does attack Liberals, Jews, Communists, Jews, Marxists, Jews, the Illuminati, Jews, Freemasonry, Jews, Papists, Jews, the Federal Reserve and most of all, Jews.

Vile neo-Nazis like von Brunn like to invoke words like “Natural Selection” and “Survival of the Fittest” but it is very clear that they know nothing about TOE, genetics, history or science. And neither does David Klinghoffer.

The Left tries to paint von Brunn as a Right Wing extremist; the Right tries to paint him as a Left Wing extremist. Creationists are blaming the Darwinists and a few anti-defamation groups blame it on fundamentalist Christianity; meanwhile the government is blaming home grown hate groups - whatever definition fits at any particular moment but unfortunately like von Brunn that could include anti-tax “Tea Bag” protesters, military vets and 2nd amendment supporters. Of course someone like von Brunn would not likely be welcomed among any those groups but that doesn’t stop the association.

In truth von Brunn is a bit of all of those things and none of those things. He and other neo-Nazi’s are their own animal and tend to be all over the spectrum of political philosophy and religion and no one in their right mind wants to embrace him as one of their own. The neo-Nazi’s pick and choose whatever they think bolsters their hatred of anyone who isn’t of their “pure race” ideology and blame a vast conspiracy perpetrated by Jews and Blacks, Communists, Liberals, Papists, etc. for their own personal failures in life.

It should be noted that like his “hero” Hitler, von Brunn was also a failure as an artist. So perhaps we need to blame art critics and art gallery owners for his actions and the Holocaust as much as we should Darwin.

Better yet, a suggestion for everyone on all sides of the political spectrum; instead of finger pointing and laying blame and making excuses for his actions, we should all condemn his brand of racism and anti-Semitism and anti-American values. Call him for what he is – a deeply mentally disturbed, hate filled vile excuse for a human being.

As he is still in critical condition but expected to live, my hope is that he will live long enough to go to trial, be convicted for the murder of the security guard Stephen T. Johns and sentenced for the remaining years of his miserable life to a federal prison and put among the general population, where while being repeatedly “butt loved” by someone other than of his own pure race; he can really learn something about “survival of the fittest”.

[freedumb2003]

I see the WWN sister publication has dropped any pretense of “science” (since it couldn’t keep it up very long any way) and has dropped to simple guilt by association.

The USA used physics. Hitler used physics. By the OP’s “reasoning” Hitler=The USA.

Taking an idea and bending it to something not originally intended is not only stupid, it is evil.

But, you “special” people are no stranger to that idea. There is no length you will not go to make your point to prove you are special.